Explorer Etrac charts

[Jim upstate NY]

Spent a good deal of the day doing these readings... used exact same targets for each machine... take it as you want it.. I tried to get the most stable reading I could off of each target... not sure what that big old screen is for... maybe some jewelry falls in somewhere besides 09-13 and 01

all I can say is with all the junk reading in that same line, it should be very interesting hunting the old trashy parks.. the crown caps Holy cow.. they can read any where on the screen ... gonna miss that bottom right corner

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<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">US Coins<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Explorer<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Etrac<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;"><br>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Target<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Ferrous<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Conductivity<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Ferrous<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Conductivity<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Bust Half Cent</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">38-42<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US classic head Half Cent</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40-42<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US flowing hair Large Cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">05</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Bust Large Cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Classic Head Large Cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">02-03<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Coronet head Large cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00-01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Braided hair large cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29-30<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US flying Eagle cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08-09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">20-24<br>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US CU/NI indian head cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08-09</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22-23<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Bronze indian head cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">24-25<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">34-35<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US wheat Cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06-07</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26-27</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40-42<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Memorial cent bronze<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">04<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">43-44<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Memorial cent Zinc<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">25<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">37<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US two cent<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US three cent silver<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22-23<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28-32<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US 3 cent cu/ni<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10-11</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">04-05<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US nickel shield<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10-11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">05-06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12-13<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Nickel V<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10-11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13-14<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Nickel buffalo<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06-07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13-14<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Nickel Jefferson War Nickel<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09-10<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06-07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14-15<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Jefferson Nickel<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09-10</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13-14<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US silver half dime Seated<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">24-27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">34-39<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Silver dime Bust<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">05<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">43<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US silver Dime seated<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03-04<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28 </td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">45-46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US silver dime barber<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03-04</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28-29</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">45-46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Silver Dime mercury<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12-13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">44-46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US silver dime Rosie<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US clad dime<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">44<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US seated quarter<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">02<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Barber quarter<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00-01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US standing Liberty quarter<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Washington silver quarter<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US clad quarter<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">04<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US seated half<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Barber Half<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28-29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10-11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Walking Liberty Half<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28-29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09-11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">44-46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Clad Half<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">47<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Silver dollar Morgan<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40-41<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US Silver Peace Dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">00<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40-41<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US gold 1 dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">05<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11-12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US gold 2.5 dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US gold 5 dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">31<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US gold 10 dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">38<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">US gold 20 dollar<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">04<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">44<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">spanish half reale cobb<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">spanish half reale milled<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">37-40<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">spanish 1 reale milled<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28-29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">44-46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">spanish 2 reale milled<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">02<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">29<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">46<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Junk Targets</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Explorer<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">Etrac<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;"><br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">ferrous<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">conductivity<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">ferrous</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top; font-weight: bold;">conductivity</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">round tab whole med<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10-11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">23<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">round tab whole large<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14-16<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">25<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">round tab tab only<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">03<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">round tab with no tab<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">square tab new type soda can<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09-10<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">18<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">square tab large<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">15-16<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">Aluminum screw cap<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">25<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">38<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">crown cap steel<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">all over<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12-13<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">aluminum dog rabies tag</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">27<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">40<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">Aluminum rivet end 3/8 inch<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">7<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">25<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">36<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">22 short casing on end<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">16<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">22 short casing on side<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">22 long casing on end</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">06<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14<br>
</td>
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<td style="vertical-align: top;">22 long casing on side<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">02<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;"> 22 long rifle casing on
end </td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">26<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22 long rifle casing on side<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">19<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">low brass shotgun  shell 12
gauge on end </td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">23<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">32<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">low brass shotgun  shell 12
gauge on side<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">11<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">07<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">med brass shotgun  shell 12
gauge on end<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">09<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">22<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">32<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">med brass shotgun  shell 12
gauge on side<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">05<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">13<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">14<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">long brass shotgun  shell
12
gauge on end<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">08<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">18<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">28<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">long brass shotgun  shell
12
gauge on side </td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">01<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">12<br>
</td>
<td style="vertical-align: top;">10<br>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

 

[unearth]

Jim-
Great job. Thanks for all the hard work

 

[rluka]

Great job!! thanks
According to the above test using 48 coins and 22 trash items:

On coins the Explorer uses...11 ferrous screen segments out of 31...Ferrous numbers 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
On coins the Etrac uses..........6 ferrous screen segments out of 35...Ferrous numbers 1,9,10,11,12,13

On trash items the Explorer uses...8 ferrous screen segments out of 31...Ferrous numbers 6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14
On trash items the Etrac uses........2 ferrous screen segments out of 35...Ferrous numbers 12,13

On coins the Explorer uses...13 conductive screen segments out of 31...Conductive numbers 1,5,6,11,12,22,23,24,26,27,28,29,30
On coins the Etrac uses........23 conductive screen segments out of 50...Conductive numbers 4,5,12,13,14,20,22,23,24,28,32,34,35,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,46,47

On trash the Explorer uses...18 conductive screen segments out of 31...Conductive numbers 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,10,11,12,14,15,16,18,22,23,25,27
On trash the Etrac uses........18 conductive screen segments out of 50...Conductive numbers 6,8,10,11,12,14,16,18,19,23,25,26,27,28,32,36,38,40

(Hope i got the correct numbers..I rushed trhough this..I was just curious)



Interesting??

I would be really curious as to find out how many tones the Etrac has compared to the Explorer!

RonL

 

[mham2]

thanks Jim, that sure helps me allot just getting started with this new ETrac

 

[D&P-OR]

Jim-----Thanks a lot for those readings-you really put a lot of work into it.---I was sure hopeing SOMEBODY would do that-and they are VERY interesting.--I've copied them & going to make good use of them.---Thanks from all of us!------Del

 

[jimpugh]

In real ground.... good to know what you are hunting in it will affect the read outs..... but sounds are more consistent. Thank You for the Great Graph!
I have printed them into my notebook for further study in field

HT
jim

 

[Jim upstate NY]

uses many more ferrous numbers for trash of various sizes, and even more for gold rings... when I get around to that I will add more to the list... its what bothers me about the change on the etrac.. lumping them all into the 12 area that I am sure many good targets will over lap with bad ones... where on the explorer they were in separate vertical lines, and usually those other lines were bad stuff, and concentrating on the signals audio you could usually tell the good from bad... and when you got an oddball hit that reads solid on the lower left half, it was a good chance of being a gold ring as well.... on the explorer only a few of the trash targets fell in the good(coin) range... I had no problems getting fat indians and flying eagles out of the parks pulltabs, but audio payed in there as well... so hopefully the audio will tell.. but in my tests the pull tabs read pretty solid on the etrac, where they waver on the explorer.. at least the shotgun shells on edge seemed to waver a bit. but if thats the case in the field on the aluminum giving unwavering tones, then we are either going to be digging a lot more junk in the parks, or we are going to only go for silver and cents... leaving the half dimes and below behind.. My main reason for getting it is for hunting in the iron anyway, but after my tests today, I think it will be impossible to use conductive in a fairly open screen, and will have to learn to get along with one tone in iron...there is no doubt you can not run a pattern in iron, unless its a relic or nail reject only or it will mask targets

 

[Jim upstate NY]

I assume thats the way to run in iron and trash, as its supposed to lock onto the strongest accepted target.. neutral will supposedly do more averaging, and with such a tight line of trash and good we dont need any averaging making it harder to tell, especially with them all reading the same tone in ferrous

 

[Texan23]

Hope this works - haven't uploaded before. I've put Jims values into the chart form provided by Rigit.

 

[Texan23]

OK, I see the chart made it OK. One would think that putting almost all coins in Ferrous 12 would be a coin-shooter's dream, but it's obvious that we are actually seeing less information from a detector that is the most computerized machine in history. Certainly a bizarre step backwards!

My E-Trac arrives tomorrow and I'm already suffering the first twinges of "buyers remorse"! I was hoping to dig less trash rather than more!

However, not all trash is present at any one site, and I'm thinking that I'll have to work on a strategy of some kind. Perhaps if I dig all 12s for a while, and then mask out only the particular sort of trash that is a nuisance I'll come out ahead of the game.

 

[rluka]

uses many more ferrous numbers for trash of various sizes, and even more for gold rings... when I get around to that I will add more to the list... its what bothers me about the change on the etrac.. lumping them all into the 12 area that I am sure many good targets will over lap with bad ones... where on the explorer they were in separate vertical lines, and usually those other lines were bad stuff, and concentrating on the signals audio you could usually tell the good from bad... and when you got an oddball hit that reads solid on the lower left half, it was a good chance of being a gold ring as well.... on the explorer only a few of the trash targets fell in the good(coin) range... I had no problems getting fat indians and flying eagles out of the parks pulltabs, but audio payed in there as well... so hopefully the audio will tell.. but in my tests the pull tabs read pretty solid on the etrac, where they waver on the explorer.. at least the shotgun shells on edge seemed to waver a bit. but if thats the case in the field on the aluminum giving unwavering tones, then we are either going to be digging a lot more junk in the parks, or we are going to only go for silver and cents... leaving the half dimes and below behind.. My main reason for getting it is for hunting in the iron anyway, but after my tests today, I think it will be impossible to use conductive in a fairly open screen, and will have to learn to get along with one tone in iron...there is no doubt you can not run a pattern in iron, unless its a relic or nail reject only or it will mask targets

When I saw the specks for the E-Trac on the Minelab website I was jumping for joy thinking that since they expanded the Smartfind screen, that meant that there would be a greater difference/variation/separation in signals and it appears to me (In all honesty, I dont have an E-Trac) that the opposite is true. PLEASE, TELL ME THAT I'M WRONG
Thanks again for the great chart
RonL

 

[Jim upstate NY]

but everyone saying it doesn't matter, so I will go and try it... dont want to bad mouth anything till I give it an honest go in the field.. Hope it can actually work better in the iron, and I can use it at my sites, with no positive signals left and have pretty much given up on at least.. if that's the case I will keep it.. but use the explorer in parks and any new sites, where I can pick and choose what to dig easier... I guess people don't realize if your hunting in parks and yards you cant just dig holes everywhere there's a pull tab.. if the park doesnt hold the flying eagles, 3 centers and fat indians I guess they can be ignored on the etrac and just go for silver.. it looks like it may actually ID silver a little better than the explorer.. unfortunately there are way more copper and cu/nickel coins than silver out there

 

[Andy Sabisch]

Jim.

In the sites you are hunting, make sure that you are in TRASH DENSITY HIGH . . . . The GROUND DIFFFICULT is really the only setting that works well in most areas here in the US and should be where 99% of the users will leave it. If the right hand sensitivity bar stays above say "24", then NEUTRAL might be a prerferred option but I have yet to find an area - and have taken the E-Trac to a number of sites - where the NEUTRAL option provides more accurate or stable operation than the DIFFICULT option. This was added during the testing phase due to performance issues in the soil the US testers hunted in.

Hope this helps

Andy

 

[Frank in NH]

n/t

 

[Jim upstate NY]

maybe to compare how many trash targets read the same as good

 

[Texan23]

I'll try to do the same chart for Jim's Explorer numbers later this evening. Doing some Hurricane prep right now, AND the E-Trac arrived.

Really looking forward to Andy's book, and any info he provides here on the forum. To me, the new machine is a fascinating and complex tool, and you know when someone comes out with a new tool they tell you how to operate it but not how to build a better building with it. That's going to be the job of the users over time...

 

[digitrich]

n/t

 

[Jim upstate NY]

n/t

 

[Texan23]

I'm a little north of Houston and it looks like we've got front row seats for Hurricane Ike tonight. I'm hoping it will move a bit more toward the east before coming ashore. Preparations yesterday for loss of electricity took longer than expected and by the time I was ready to post this new chart, about 2 AM, the forum was not responding. My new E-Trac arrived yesterday as well, but I only had time to unpack it and make sure it would power up and detect something.

On page one of this thread JIM_UPSTATE_NY tested a large number of U.S. coins with his E-Trac and posted the values. I charted them in a simplified way by metal-type. He also tested the same targets with his Explorer SE and those values are shown on this (second) chart. For ease of comparison the chart remains the same, with conductivity running right to left. He also tested his favorite trash, and these items appear on both charts as the letter T. Trash was composed of six different tabs, two types of bottle caps, a dog's tag, a rivet, six versions of .22 shell casings and six versions of shotgun shells.

On both charts many coins share the same ID values, making some of the color coding a problem. However, you can clearly see how the Explorer's coin values in the range of 22 to 30 Conductivity benefit from the widened conductivity scale on the E-Trac.

Unfortunately you can also see the amazing loss of definition in the E-Trac's skewed Ferrous scale. If Jim is primarily interested in coins, and his typical hunting site is peppered with the types of junk that he recorded for us, then the ability of his E-Trac to tell trash from treasure is obviously impaired.

How bad is it? The Explorer SE overlapped trash and treasure at 6 TIDs; the E-Trac at 10.

But everyone's hunting situation is different. I don't expect to find many .22s or shotgun shells in the places I expect to hunt. With an E-Trac that would be an obvious blessing. On the other hand, I'm worried. What sort of junk will map into F12 in my own locale? Have we gone back 15 years or more to the moving needle that pointed to pulltab, diamond ring, nickle, dime, quarter just to let you know what to hope for when you dug the hole?

It's clear that the E-Trac has been designed for terrific stability, great adaptability and ease of use. If this remapping of the Ferrous values was the only way the engineers could achieve one or more of these goals, then we might have something that would make all this more understandable. But at the moment I have to say it looks more like an engineering error than anything else.

I'm returning to the hobby after a ten year absence, and I had a brief opportunity to get a top of the line machine. I wanted to be in a situation in which I could never blame the detector for an unsatisfying hunt. I didn't want an Explorer because there are just too many postings commenting on TIDs bouncing all over the screen, and users who claim they do better by ignoring most of the Explorer's functionality.

It makes me angry that without even taking my new detector out of the house I'm wondering how the machine's shortcomings will effect my hunting. I doubt I can return it on the basis that E-Tracs are defective just as a matter of principle. On the other hand, if it turns out to be something I can live with for a short while, will I have the good timing to unload it on someone else just before the revised E-Trac comes out and lowers its value?

Oh, I know. It really IS a beautiful machine. I'll take it for a spin or two and see how it does. Perhaps it will surprise me. But I can't really say I'm looking forward to it and that is a damn shame.

 

[digitrich]

n/t