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F5 in All Metal Auto Tune mode

Mike Hillis

Well-known member
Just some tips for when you get around to using the F5's all metal Auto Tune mode....

First, the F5 has four audio pitches you can select from for your threshold pitch in the All Metal operating mode. A1 is the lowest, A4 is the highest. The pitch you chose in the all metal mode will also be the pitch of your pinpoint audio and this will carry over into the Discrimination mode. Yes, the F5 will let you select the pitch of your pinpoint VCO audio. It is not a saved setting though. The selection is lost when you turn the machine off.

Second, in the Auto Tune all metal mode (Auto Tune basically means the threshold won't drift) the F5 will still give target ID numbers. However, in this all metal mode, the F5 will detect deeper than it can identifiy targets. Another words, very deep targets will give a audio response but no target id numbers on the screen. When you hunt in the all metal mode and you get a target response that doesn't give an id number you can still id ferrous/non-ferrous by using the ground phase read out number much like I have described before, only now, due to the depth, you'll need to dig a couple of these to see how the ground minerals and target depth is skewing the ground phase number.

Third, in hot ground (my ground reads 4 FE304 bars most all the time due to my black sand minerals) you get a better ground balance by switching over to All Metal and manually balancing than you do using the Phase Lock function. To ground cancel spot on, set the threshold to 0 or -1 and adjust until you get NO THRESHOLD hum. Any noise you hear while ground cancelling this way will be from either ground noise or ground balance offset. Spot on balance will be silence when you pump the coil. You want the perfect balance first before adding any threshold tone. If you ground cancel with a threshold hum you won't be able to tell when theground noise is truly cancelled out.

HH
Mike
 
Morning Mike. Just a line to let you know how much we here at the F swingers forum appreciate your input to our hobby. I've been a big fan of the F5 for a long time even though I don't have one yet. Still too involved trying to figure out everything the F70 has to offer. One season is only a surface breaker with a good machine.The similarities of the 5 and the 70 are amazing though and have learned a lot from reading your info just the same. I think I see an F5 with a 5"x8" DD in my future.
Happy New Year and HH--Larry
 
Thanks for taking the time to post that info Mike. I had forgotten about the threshold tone adjustment you mentioned. But one thing I'd like to mention or maybe make a wish list for is a tone option in the motion all metal mode. By that I mean, instead of having one tone that covers all target responses, have two or more. One for the ferrous targets and one for the non ferrous ones. Kind of like what you get when running a machine in discrimination mode but in all metal mode. I know you can adjust some machines that way, but on the Fisher F series it would help me greatly.
 
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