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F5 is this normal when everything but coins is disc out?

BobbyBridge

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I hope Mike H and others can help on this one! Yesterday went hunthng in a park, was picking up everything so I notched out everything but 5 cent,Dime, QTR and 50c. The ground was wet. I was able to bring my gain up to 99 and the threshold to +9 with no chater. Disc.at 65 So I start to hunt but am thinking I never ran into this last year! Fe bar graph is med.
Regardes Bobby
 
No, I can't run that hot! 50gain , thresh turned up max is really hot on my f5. I also run gain in the 70s w/thresh at 0 to a +1 but that is about all I can stand, any more and it starts to chatter.I have found that sometimes less is more, I try not to run it at the very edge. I really like 70g thr @ 0 for most areas. How deep are you finding coins that you reconize before you dig? 5-6inches is about the norm for me(can go deeper but not as sure). Your saying you got it wide open and its quiet? No, I can't do that.
 
Yes Twoscoots
Wide open and quiet! this never has happend befor, till I get a hit! G B was set and I started to play with All Metal and was hitting nuts and boults deep as my digger.
I think it was cause it was very wet.
 
I have done the same thing with my F5 and I got one of the first produced. They (FT) have built something into the firmware if you max gain and threshold it is stable but not as deep. I really enjoy the machine.. The F5 will fall off to iron on deeper targets but any thing six inches or less is right on with the F5. It definitely can hit targets much deeper than six inches in my soil (Fredericksburg VA) My soil readings are GB about 60 and dirt meter is usually 1 or 2 bars. I just recently hunted Orange County VA and my F5 was stable and predictable (near mine run campaign ). I think the F5 does a better job when you GB and set Gain from 50 to 70 and tweak the threshold to get a stable hunt. The F5's audio does a much better job when you are not over driving the machine and listen to the audio.


just my observations

Take care
Bob
 
Hi Bobby,
Pretty normal F5 operation in my opinion. First, when you notched out the trash ranges (foil, tabs, zinc) you also notched out where most of your EMI noise hits on the conductive scale. Second, the F5 also uses the ground signal to cancel out EMI noise as you sweep the coil. Your medium ground bar reading tells me that feature is in use and is also using that feature to cancel EMI noise. So between those two functions, you are going to get a pretty stable detector.

Lastly, and Bob, mentioned this, if the Threshold dial is turned too hard into the dail stop, it will also put you into a reduced operating mode, simular to the ground signal effect, and will offer a quieter operation but with reduced performance.

There is a point where the threshold setting stops giving you a depth increase and changes over to a modification of target response. Threshold settings close to 0 make fringe depth targets sound as "whispers". When the threshold is moved out toward the edges (-9 or +9) then the fringe depth targets start to sound more like faint "ticks". Since it is often difficult to get a +9 threshold setting in urban environments it is not general knowledge, and I may be the only person that hunts with a -9 threshold setting on a regular basis and aware of the differences. In fact, although I prefer the audio rubustness that positive threshold setting give, at sites where my ground minerals are low enough, I like coin hunting with very low (-9 to -5) threshold settings and very high gain settings. For gold jewelry hunting I use very high (+5 or higher) threshold settings with stable gain settings.

HH
Mike
 
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