F75 se Disc.

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I am learning the F75 se and my settings are DE mode , sens@ 60 , Disc @ 15 and tones @ 3. How come i still hear iron and see Id'ing a iron square nail with sound if i am disc'ing out the 6? How can i get rid of the sound of iron? Thanks, GS

 

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I am learning the F75 se and my settings are DE mode , sens@ 60 , Disc @ 15 and tones @ 3. How come i still hear iron and see Id'ing a iron square nail with sound if i am disc'ing out the 6? How can i get rid of the sound of iron? Thanks, GS

You still have much to learn but it will come so have patience.
If I ever found a brand that can give you some great info about iron it would be the Fisher's.
Some rusty iron will still come in as an actual high tone and might even bleed though your disc.
If you hunt using the tones that give you a low iron tone you might find on many of these you will get an high tone and some jumpy higher numbers with parts of the coil, but if you "rim" them with the front, back or edge of your coil they should jump back down to the iron range and you will hear that low iron grunt.
This also works on those older iron pop tops.
In iron filled sites I like using 2F on my F70 in pretty low disc from 0-4 and do a lot of that rimming to dig less and find more.

 

[WV62]

I now longer have a F75Ltd, but I found that tones don't go all that deep. So for me I was running 1 tone and was doing pretty well with that. Also I ran it in the boost processor most of the time, it is actually easier to use.

Now another thing you can do to tame it down a little is run the 5" coil, you will have less targets under the coil at the same time.

As for disc settings I could not see any reason to run the low disc settings, if you test it you will find that the F75 does not loose any depth with the higher settings. So if I was hunting silver coins I would run mine at max disc and the silver ended up in my pocket. So the way I ran disc is what do I want to find, if I was looking for gold it needs to be set low. If you want all coins just a little below max that will get those zinc's and IH pennies, and a nickel notch in will pretty well get them all.

I never understood just set disc at 4 and all was better.

Now for hunting jewelry I would try the JE processor and if it was stable go with that.

Now back to tones, I was having some problems with that and I PM'ed Dave J and he came right back with the suggestion to run 1 tone. So the next time I went to the park and started off as aways 3 tones and my problem was I would hear a little bit of high tone which would stop me dead in my tracks. I would dig and take out 3 or 4 targets and still no coin. Long story short, I switched to 1 tone and I started moving along pretty good. Then back to 3 tones stopped dead, then back to 1 tone. Now I know there is a lot of luck here but I went about 30 feet running 1 tone and out popped a silver dime.

If I was going to hunt a ball field just after the game just run that disc up and go, the idea is to cover as much ground as you can before late sleepers show up.

Sorry for rambling a little.

Ron in WV

 

[ez4sure]

sounds like you have iron notched in instead of out turn your machine on and look at the iron symbol at a disc setting of 15 there should be a slash through the the word iron if there is not do a factory reset hold trigger forward program button down and turn it off and back on, notching stuff in and out is confusing and dont mess with it myself plus i dig everything exept iron most of the time. i run my disc at 8 to 10 just high enough to knock out nails where i live deeper nickels can id in the high iron range sometimes hh

 

[WV62]

sounds like you have iron notched in instead of out turn your machine on and look at the iron symbol at a disc setting of 15 there should be a slash through the the word iron if there is not do a factory reset hold trigger forward program button down and turn it off and back on, notching stuff in and out is confusing and dont mess with it myself plus i dig everything exept iron most of the time. i run my disc at 8 to 10 just high enough to knock out nails where i live deeper nickels can id in the high iron range sometimes hh

Very good thought about iron notched in.
Sorry about my typo above, I meant to say I no (now) longer have a F75Ltd.

If you try to understand notching from the manual what nightmare. Think about notch this way.

If notch is set higher than disc, you are notching out. Example: Disc set just above iron and notch is set at tabs you are notching out tabs.
If notch is lower than disc, you are notching in. Example: Disc set at max and notch set at nickels you are notching in nickels.

A good factory reset is a good thing to do from time to time just make sure things are right.

Ron in WV

 

[TAFI125]

We don't hunt house sites etc in the uk , but iron is always present . We work on the maxim if you are not findinding iron, you are missing something. Ironically the best sites, Roman etc. will have been worked for hundreds of years and it is amazing how much iron is present. I use my f75 at a disc of 4 , usually with 2 tones , a single tone signal would be maddening on most fields. Farmers ,as an example seem to break a lot of machinery, and these big lumps of plough share etc will not reject. Or for that matter any iron with a hole in it.

 

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Thanks guys, i figured it out and did reset it. I was reading about the notch and it is very cumfusing. I like to just knock out iron nails and thats it. I will play with the notch after i am custom to all other settings. Thanks, GS

 

[dbax]

WV62 -- That notching business has always been a confusing thing for me too, maybe you can help my simple mind to understand this a little better. Someone else had mention what you said earlier about the disc level being higher or lower than the notch setting and recommended going to the notch setting and setting it to its lowest possible setting, like 1 and then using only the Disc settings to cancel out the iron or other metals. My question is, when you say "notch in", say nickels, does that mean you will not pickup nickels or that you will? I guess I am confused about the "in and out" -- Say I want to pick up nickels but not the iron or foil, would I notch in the nickels or notch out -- ? If using the notch feature would I then want to set Disc at the lowest setting? It seems the confusion in using the notch settings is its apparent conflict with the Disc setting. Use one or the other but not both? Thanks, for any light shed on this. Peace, Dan Maybe this should come under its own topic for NOTCHING?

 

[WV62]

Lets start a new post and I will hook up with you at the top. I noticed your detector line up and you are running a F70. So all I can do is hope it is somewhat like the F75.

Ron in WV

 

[ez4sure]

f70 anf f75 are the same if you notch something in the that item is accepted notched out eliminated ive been running fishers for 4 years and still dont mess with the notching im afraid ill miss a gold ring if i do lol hh

 

[WV62]

WV62 -- That notching business has always been a confusing thing for me too, maybe you can help my simple mind to understand this a little better. Someone else had mention what you said earlier about the disc level being higher or lower than the notch setting and recommended going to the notch setting and setting it to its lowest possible setting, like 1 and then using only the Disc settings to cancel out the iron or other metals. My question is, when you say "notch in", say nickels, does that mean you will not pickup nickels or that you will? I guess I am confused about the "in and out" -- Say I want to pick up nickels but not the iron or foil, would I notch in the nickels or notch out -- ? If using the notch feature would I then want to set Disc at the lowest setting? It seems the confusion in using the notch settings is its apparent conflict with the Disc setting. Use one or the other but not both? Thanks, for any light shed on this. Peace, Dan Maybe this should come under its own topic for NOTCHING?

Here is my take on understanding notching.

I am only talking about the F75ltd and I hope it carries over to the F70.

I will start out by answering a couple of the main questions that may get some off track.
Disc out= items that should no longer be detected.
Disc in= items that should be detected.
Notch out= items that should no longer be detected.
Notch in= items that should be detected.

Now one way to think of notch and disc are that they are somewhat the same being they setup the items to either be disc in or out.
If you only have disc you only have the option to run it up or down until you take out what you don

 

[therover]

Made it very clear to me. Thanks.

 

[ez4sure]

you can notch things in and out two different ways set the disc higher than what you want notched out and then use the notch to set it back in or you can just use the notch so setting the notch is either the same as using disc or opposite depends how you use it. i just played with my f75 and thats what i have figured out anybody confused yet lol hh

 

[dbax]

WV62 thanks, good stuff, I get it now, thanks so much for taking to time to penetrate my thick skull I did open another post with the topic centered on the Notching issue. I hope you will take the time to copy and paste your response here into that topic area, thanks again for the good and useful info. And yes, everything about this and the F75 seems to apply to the F70 as well. Peace, Dan

 

[shooter]

I think your question about still hearing nails at 15 disc was a good one, and that had nothing to do with notching them out, why are you still getting them in DE @ 60 sen. & 15 Disc? Cause it still happens to me, and there not BIG hob nails either?

 

[shooter]

You got it right as always WM62.............

 

[shooter]

Right again Ron....

 

[shooter]

Yo Ron your hot tonight....

 

[shooter]

Ok all real good comments by everyone BUT why is he still getting nails @"15" and 60 SEN????????????????? I might say ok on a rusty bent 6" hob nail. Never pick that up with my 1270...

 

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Ok , i went back to where i first got the f75se and thought about how this could happen. I was messing around with all settings and ending up messing with notch and couldn't figure out why i still hear iron square nails when they come in 6 to 7 on the id scale and disc at 15. What i did was do a reset of the f75se and went back to see if i hear the iron and bingo it was gone . So playing with the notch and not knowing how to use it , resulted in hearing the iron in disc. Lesson learned for me . GS