Woo, it really is deeper I got better clearer signals in disq even to my 8" dime in ground but this dime has had no time to get a mineral halo yeat , But when i switched into all metal Holy Frog legs i could lift the coil 3" off the ground and still get a very good signal on the 8" deep dime and my soil has lots of black sand in it the way to get deep in all metal is get a good ground balance then set the threshould to just whear its going to start making noise and woo she goes deep , I have made no post for finds only because ive not goten out exept in the farm feild whear i found a 10" nail and some shotgun shells at shalower depths later Gunnar MN