Full Tones

[KevT13]

Hi all.

I've been hunting with the Deus for about 3 years. I consider myself pretty well versed with the machine. I have read the manual and Andys book, I've watched any Deus tech I can find and I run my own tests with it. I think I've got a pretty good general understanding of how the settings work with each other.

However I do have a tech question regarding full tones.

I usually run my machine with 0 discrimination and 5 tones, setting my own tonal breakpoints. I've tried full tones alot (in fact I am forcing myself to use it in the field currently ) However, despite what I've read read and heard from people I haven't personally found any benefit from full tones over my 5 tone setup.

I understand from videos and people online that full tones is supposed to enable you to better hear what's in the ground over other tone setups. However with 0 discrimination I think I can still hear everything in the ground just as well and have a tone range that I prefer. How does full tones enable someone to better hear what's in the ground?

Can anyone give me a technical explanation why full tones is better way to run the Deus over a 5 tone setup ?

Many thanks.

Kev

 

[Lodge Scent]

Kev,I think the idea behind Full Tones was that it would allow you to run at a lower Discrim because your ear could more easily pick out those weak good tones from the barrage of bad tones you often get at an iron filled or trashy site. And running at a lower Discrim usually means better performance. But if you are running with 0 Discrim anyway, is Full Tones still an advantage over multi tones? Perhaps in extremely trashy sites it might be, but I really don't know for sure. I run Full Tones, 0 Discrim most of the time but also have a 5 Tone program. I don't recall ever having a target that I hit with Full Tones that the Multi Tone program couldn't also hit. The Full Tones hits seem a bit more definite to me though. I just feel more comfortable (and therefor more confident) with Full Tones. "What ever works" is my motto.

Hopefully one of the Deus techies will chime in with a better answer.

 

[KevT13]

Thanks Lodge I appreciate the reply and ideas.

Yes I agree, I can understand the benefit of a 0 discrimination program over a program running discrimination purely by the fact that 0 discrimination allows you to hear all of the iron in the ground which alerts you to possible early habitation increasing your chances of good finds. I have also read that using discrimination may have a negative impact on depth (can anyone confirm this?).

So running 0 discrimination seems advantageous to me. I'm just not sure what advantage full tones offers.

 

[calabash digger]

I run 0 discrim in my heavy iron program and in my deep relic program I run on 1 and it lets the iron be the baseline and knocks out the ground noise. I will jack the discrim up and test it in my garden on depth will get back to you on that issue. Ive run full tones since ive got my machine so im no help with that question.