JUST GOT ONE,TOOK IT OUT TWICE SEEMS YOU GOT TO GO REAL SLOW ,I HAVE 2 MINELABS EXCAL AND I MOVE PRETTY FAST WITH THOSES NO PROBLEM BUT WITH THE GARRETT IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE TO GO REAL REAL SLOW TO PICK UP ANY SOUND WITH IT IS THAT HOW YOU HAVE TO OPERATE IT AND ALSO WHAT DOES THE SLOW AND FAST MEAN ON THE INFIN JUST CANT SEEM TO GET THE HANG OF IT AND WHAT IS A BETTER MACHINE SEEMS I CANT FIND ANY THING WITH IT THANKS FOR ALL YOR INFO
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GARRETT INFINIUM OPERATION
- Thread starter clyde
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Now, the Infinium and Excalibur demand 2 different types of hunting techniques:
Using the Excalibur allows you to NOT dig certain targets because it has a accumulative type of discrimination. So, you can pick and choose to what degree you may want to dig good probable targets.
The Infinium has limited discrimination, so you tend to dig more targets.
Some water hunters dig all targets, and manage to get those tiny rings and other "surprises" that a lot of other hunters miss. So, they end up digging more junk too.
Some hunters like to cherry pick and only dig the "better" sounding targets, digging less targets in a day.
So, it depends on your style of hunting. I know a good ground-balanced Infinium will easily find a gold ring at 12 inches using the 8 inch mono coil. I also know that the Infinium can hunt areas where the mineralization and/or high salt content with ease, whereas the Excalibur finds those areas challenging. It also depends where you are doing most of your hunting hunting also.
Yes....the Infinium requires you to swing at a slower speed, especially the deeper signals.
"Slow" & "Fast" - You normally hunt in the lock position, as that is where (after ground balancing the unit properly) you have the maximum depth and sensitivity fixed for the area you have just balanced it in. If you are hunting in an area where the mineralization levels change, you have the option of hunting in either "slow" position where the ground conditions change periodically, or fast, where they are constantly changing. This allows the Infinium to operate at it's maximum potential utilizing the "Automatic Ground Track" feature. Below are a set of instructions posted by Phil Stearns:
"Now here are some of my instructions in using it in beach hunting and many of these tips can also be used in the field of prospecting.
(1) First, turn the unit into the LOCK position. Then listen for any interference and use the frequency adjustments to eliminate any interference. Remember to move the frquency ajustment a small amount and then wait for a small period of time for it to lock in. Remember, there are 32 frequency positions that can be obtained with this control. Once you get use to the unit, you will generally get to know where the quietests spots are and it will come second nature and quick to do this.
(2) Do not try and adjust the frequency control with the unit in Fast or Slow Track. What I have found, is that sometimes the auto track tries to lock onto the interference, making it hard to eliminate it.
(3) Set the threshold so as you can only just here it and set the discrimination to "0" .
Now comes the important steps and if this isn't done correctly, false signals and sounds can occur.
(4) Turn the unit to Fast Track. Move the coil up and down to the sand a few times and place the coil directly onto the sand for about 10 seconds. Then again move the coil up and down to the sand a few more times. You will see that that the ground balance has come in very quickly and should be fairly steady.
(5) Then switch it to Slow Track and then repeat the same procedure as was done in Fast track. This is the fine tuning adjustments.
Please note, when you place the coil directly onto the ground, the unit tends to keep ground balancing the ground effects out, and you will find that it quietens down pretty quick. This is especially more noticable in the high mineralised ground in the goldfields.
(6) Once this has been done, switch the unit to lock.
(7) As the unit was designed for prospecting, it doesn't have the prefixed discrimination set to compensate for salt water effects, as other beach PI units have. If you still get any affects from the salt water, you may have to increase the discrimination up to about "2" to eliminate these false signals. I haven't had any problems with noisy operation going from the dry sand, to the wet sand and into the water with the unit ground balance set correctly. Generally I use it with "0" discrimination set.
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As the unit was designed for prospecting, it has a lot more sensitivity than a normal beach PI unit. To drop the sensitivity, use the threshold and reduce it, even to "0" and this will also help reduce any false signals you may be getting. By doing this, you will not miss any targets normally associated with beach/water detecting, eg:- coins, rings and chains.
(9) If you come to an area in the water that is causing a lot of problems, then ground balance over this problem area and then switch it to lock. This should sort out any problems.
I had a customer who was having problems with certain areas in the salt water, that was causing all sorts of signals. The area was near a place that was well known for copper ore, and was a very productive copper mining area during its time. These problem areas had many rocks which would have contained traces of copper ore. I told him to ground balance over these rocky outcrops until the unit was quiet and then turn it to the Lock position. He did this and found that he could move from the dry sand and into these areas without any problems. He also found a nice gold ring on that day he tried this set up.
(10) Make sure the cable is looped slightly near the coil and then taped to the lower stem. Then bring the cable straight up the stem for about 18" (450mm) and tape. Also tape the cable in several places between this section. Do not use cable ties as these can eventually damage the cable. I prefer to use insulation tape as no damage will be done to cable and it holds the cable more secure with less movement."
Using the Excalibur allows you to NOT dig certain targets because it has a accumulative type of discrimination. So, you can pick and choose to what degree you may want to dig good probable targets.
The Infinium has limited discrimination, so you tend to dig more targets.
Some water hunters dig all targets, and manage to get those tiny rings and other "surprises" that a lot of other hunters miss. So, they end up digging more junk too.
Some hunters like to cherry pick and only dig the "better" sounding targets, digging less targets in a day.
So, it depends on your style of hunting. I know a good ground-balanced Infinium will easily find a gold ring at 12 inches using the 8 inch mono coil. I also know that the Infinium can hunt areas where the mineralization and/or high salt content with ease, whereas the Excalibur finds those areas challenging. It also depends where you are doing most of your hunting hunting also.
Yes....the Infinium requires you to swing at a slower speed, especially the deeper signals.
"Slow" & "Fast" - You normally hunt in the lock position, as that is where (after ground balancing the unit properly) you have the maximum depth and sensitivity fixed for the area you have just balanced it in. If you are hunting in an area where the mineralization levels change, you have the option of hunting in either "slow" position where the ground conditions change periodically, or fast, where they are constantly changing. This allows the Infinium to operate at it's maximum potential utilizing the "Automatic Ground Track" feature. Below are a set of instructions posted by Phil Stearns:
"Now here are some of my instructions in using it in beach hunting and many of these tips can also be used in the field of prospecting.
(1) First, turn the unit into the LOCK position. Then listen for any interference and use the frequency adjustments to eliminate any interference. Remember to move the frquency ajustment a small amount and then wait for a small period of time for it to lock in. Remember, there are 32 frequency positions that can be obtained with this control. Once you get use to the unit, you will generally get to know where the quietests spots are and it will come second nature and quick to do this.
(2) Do not try and adjust the frequency control with the unit in Fast or Slow Track. What I have found, is that sometimes the auto track tries to lock onto the interference, making it hard to eliminate it.
(3) Set the threshold so as you can only just here it and set the discrimination to "0" .
Now comes the important steps and if this isn't done correctly, false signals and sounds can occur.
(4) Turn the unit to Fast Track. Move the coil up and down to the sand a few times and place the coil directly onto the sand for about 10 seconds. Then again move the coil up and down to the sand a few more times. You will see that that the ground balance has come in very quickly and should be fairly steady.
(5) Then switch it to Slow Track and then repeat the same procedure as was done in Fast track. This is the fine tuning adjustments.
Please note, when you place the coil directly onto the ground, the unit tends to keep ground balancing the ground effects out, and you will find that it quietens down pretty quick. This is especially more noticable in the high mineralised ground in the goldfields.
(6) Once this has been done, switch the unit to lock.
(7) As the unit was designed for prospecting, it doesn't have the prefixed discrimination set to compensate for salt water effects, as other beach PI units have. If you still get any affects from the salt water, you may have to increase the discrimination up to about "2" to eliminate these false signals. I haven't had any problems with noisy operation going from the dry sand, to the wet sand and into the water with the unit ground balance set correctly. Generally I use it with "0" discrimination set.
(
As the unit was designed for prospecting, it has a lot more sensitivity than a normal beach PI unit. To drop the sensitivity, use the threshold and reduce it, even to "0" and this will also help reduce any false signals you may be getting. By doing this, you will not miss any targets normally associated with beach/water detecting, eg:- coins, rings and chains. (9) If you come to an area in the water that is causing a lot of problems, then ground balance over this problem area and then switch it to lock. This should sort out any problems.
I had a customer who was having problems with certain areas in the salt water, that was causing all sorts of signals. The area was near a place that was well known for copper ore, and was a very productive copper mining area during its time. These problem areas had many rocks which would have contained traces of copper ore. I told him to ground balance over these rocky outcrops until the unit was quiet and then turn it to the Lock position. He did this and found that he could move from the dry sand and into these areas without any problems. He also found a nice gold ring on that day he tried this set up.
(10) Make sure the cable is looped slightly near the coil and then taped to the lower stem. Then bring the cable straight up the stem for about 18" (450mm) and tape. Also tape the cable in several places between this section. Do not use cable ties as these can eventually damage the cable. I prefer to use insulation tape as no damage will be done to cable and it holds the cable more secure with less movement."
Uncle Willy
New member
Great info bud. I'm still hassling with the engineers to find out how to adjust the pulse rate. So far they hae stated that the discrimination control sets the pulse rate but don't explain where you set it to achieve any given pulse rate such as anywhere from zero uS to 25uS. Different objects respond better to different pulse rates, such as gold nuggets that respond better to 10uS.
Bill
Bill
There is no dedicated pulse delay adjustment available externally for the operator to set on the Infinium LS.
The sole purpose of the operating pulse frequency adjustment is to minimize any outside electrical interference; thereby adjusting the Infinium LS to it's most sensitive state, in combination with audio threshold and ground balancing.
The trick to know with the Infinium LS is.
When, where and how the operating pulse frequency is adjusted.
ivanll
The sole purpose of the operating pulse frequency adjustment is to minimize any outside electrical interference; thereby adjusting the Infinium LS to it's most sensitive state, in combination with audio threshold and ground balancing.
The trick to know with the Infinium LS is.
When, where and how the operating pulse frequency is adjusted.
ivanll
Uncle Willy
New member
Exactly what I've been trying to find out. One of the other major brands has a pulse adjustment on their PI machine.
Bill
Bill
John has it right.
Take your time and learn your detector. I put out a test area with coins and silver and gold at different depths...plus those iron nails and pull tabs. I just need one detector and I go deeper than anyone else and get all the stuff that everyone else has missed.
I find the nuggets in places that no body else looks. If you could love a machine I got mine. The infinium is the best!
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Take your time and learn your detector. I put out a test area with coins and silver and gold at different depths...plus those iron nails and pull tabs. I just need one detector and I go deeper than anyone else and get all the stuff that everyone else has missed.
I find the nuggets in places that no body else looks. If you could love a machine I got mine. The infinium is the best!
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