General Question

[all iron]

Hello All
New to MDing and to this forum. I'm glad to have found a forum that is specifically about Teknetics
I bought my first detector 5 months ago ( alpha 2000 ) and since then i have bought the Delta 4000 ( i love it!! )
But i have never used anything better, so i don't know what i'm missing. I think i'm getting pretty good with it and can here multiple targets in the ground now.

I think i might be ready for another move up ( can anyone recommend what should be next ) is it the T2 ?
I live in Indiana and most of my hunting is done in wooded areas, parks, school yards
Ive also thought about purchasing a different coil for my delta 4000 / maybe a smaller one than the 8 inch stock / the parks seem to have a lot of trash arround the pavilions
I could sure use a good link to a site for purchasing coils that would fit mine and some advise to go along with it.

Thanks

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I may suggest that you look into the LTD or Omega with the 11 and 5 DD. On the LTD you will learn something everyday and on the Omega it is fast great in iron deep and easy to use but very powerful. You have to use the DD to get the depth of the F75. The LTD is deeper for me faster and has a great air gap. It is my number one but I trust the Omega in any hunting area and never feel I should have had the LTD. The EMI is better on the Omega it is the best backup I have had so far. Great at relics,coins, trash and iron.

 

[Monte]

Hello All New to MDing and to this forum. I'm glad to have found a forum that is specifically about Teknetics.

Welcome to the hobby, and welcome to Teknetics and this forum.

I bought my first detector 5 months ago ( alpha 2000 ) and since then i have bought the Delta 4000 ( i love it!! )
But i have never used anything better, so i don't know what i'm missing. I think i'm getting pretty good with it and can here multiple targets in the ground now.

Only YOU can determine if you are ready to move up to a different detector, as well as decide what you want in an up-scale model. I will tell you, however, that it's usually a small percentage of people who can get started, new, in the hobby and have two models and really master them in only 5 months. Hopefully you're among that group.

I think i might be ready for another move up ( can anyone recommend what should be next ) is it the T2 ?

Good, and might I ask what functions/features you want to "move up" to? The primary difference between the Alpha and Delta, both factory preset Ground Cancel models, and the rest of the line-up is that the others all provide you with the ability to ground balance for the site you're hunting. The other Teknetics offerings provide you with both Fast Grab/Ground Grab, which is a quick auto-balance function, as well as manual control to fine-tune to Ground Cancel setting.

I like the Gamma for what it provides for the price. Some prefer hat 'S' rod design that is the same as your Alpha and Delta models. I personally prefer the Omega for a couple of reasons. One is that I like the physical package and operating 'grip' or handle, but the primary reason is that with the combination of two knobs and a few touch-pads, it is much quicker to shift between modes and adjust the Sensitivity and Discrimination levels.

I live in Indiana and most of my hunting is done in wooded areas, parks, school yards
Ive also thought about purchasing a different coil for my delta 4000 / maybe a smaller one than the 8 inch stock / the parks seem to have a lot of trash arround the pavilions.

Your stock coil, either the 8" round concentric on the Delta or Gamma, or the 10" elliptical concentric on the Omega, will handle most of your more open hunting needs. Two options would be the 11" DD or the 5" DD, and since you're new to the hobby and have indicated that some sites are trashy, I would suggest the 5" coil to be the next one you acquire. It will hep you learn and master the detectors quicker than the 11" DD. The 5" DD coil also provides decent depth-of-detection for its size.

Keep us posted on what you decide and how things go as you progress. if you bought from a local dealer, perhaps a visit would help with your decisions as you could tray the different coils.

The T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is also one to consider, but I honestly believe that it's not the better choice for someone who is a new comers and will mainly be coin hunting local parks and schools.

Monte

 

[jmaryt]

hi monte!
why isn't the t2 a good choice for a newcomer interested in just hunting coins?..it DOES have
a factory setting right out of the box that allows the newbie to find good stuff right out of the gate!
(f-75 has this as well!.)

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Monte]

Keep in mind that I was replying to someone who is new to the hobby and in 5 months they have acquired 2 detectors, neither of which provides, or calls for, manual ground balance. Also, buying the two lowest priced models in the Teknetics line doesn't really hunt that his research of the hobby and product line had him ready to invest in a mid or higher-priced model.

why isn't the t2 a good choice for a newcomer interested in just hunting coins?..it DOES have
a factory setting right out of the box that allows the newbie to find good stuff right out of the gate!
(f-75 has this as well!.) j.t.

It is true that the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], and F75, come ready for some serious hunting with an adjustable discrimination; Fast Grab and manual Ground Cancel function; and possibly more adjustment than a newcomer wants to/needs to learn. we are all different and some of us have more patience to deal with things and drive to learn. Note that I said:

The T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is also one to consider, but I honestly believe that it's not the better choice for someone who is a new comers and will mainly be coin hunting local parks and schools.

So, yes, it is one to consider, but perhaps for the dollar investment he (and many others) might be better served by getting an Omega 8000 Coil Combo pack for $799 and have the stock 10" concentric, 11" DD, and the 5" DD for hunting the trashier site4s he indicated he'd be visiting.

The T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and F75 are fine, but not for everyone.

Monte

 

[jmaryt]

the t2 and the f-75 in factory set up can be used by a new comer quite effectively in parks and school grounds to hunt coins and jewelry exclusively.
the detector was designed to be easily used by either a new hobbyist,OR a more experienced hobbyist.i believe either the t2 ,or the f-75 will give the new user
more potential over the long term to maximize the value built into both of them.as the new user becomes more acclimated to either or,he will most assuredly be a more proficient hunter.AND
will possess significantly MORE "tools" in software to "customize" his future hunts...in MY view,this represents better value,and cannot be discounted.

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Monte]

the t2 and the f-75 in factory set up can be used by a new comer quite effectively in parks and school grounds to hunt coins and jewelry exclusively.

You could say that most detectors come ready for the newcomer to use them in park and school grounds and do okay. Actually, the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and F75 really are two models that can be "effective" but that's because they provide more control on Ground Cancel than simple turn-on-and-go models, but I'm of the opinion that any make or model that can be more effective if properly set up can also be made less effective if they are improperly set-up.

the detector was designed to be easily used by either a new hobbyist,OR a more experienced hobbyist.i believe either the t2 ,or the f-75 will give the new user
more potential over the long term to maximize the value built into both of them.as the new user becomes more acclimated to either or,he will most assuredly be a more proficient hunter.AND
will possess significantly MORE "tools" in software to "customize" his future hunts...in MY view,this represents better value,and cannot be discounted.

It is true that a newcomer or experienced operator can be more successful with either of those models than with a turn-on-and-go unit once they master them. It is also true than the same newcomer or experienced user can be more successful once they learn and master the Omega, or even a Gamma for that matter.

If'all iron' decides on a T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and learns it and does well, then that would support what each of us have said. Mind you, I own and use a T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] myself, but I have the luxury of owning and using several detectors. I also have a pretty fair understanding of their strengths and weaknesses, for me and my needs, whereas 'all iron' might not have the same opportunity. Since he might hang onto a delta as a back-up perhaps, I can see the merit it having coil compatibility between two models which makes a Gamma, and especially the Omega, a good consideration.

Also, even though the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] comes with a Target ID display, I find that it tends to hunt quite a bit deeper and produce a good audio response than it does a Target ID. For ME, I find the top-dollar model a great 'relic hunting" tool more than a daily coin shooter for a few reasons. One is the operating frequency and the way the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] performs as designed, the excellent iron range discrimination, and for the relic hunting needs I like it for (searching more open areas where coverage and depth are important), it does well.

I read the post from 'all iron' and got the feeling that he is mostly into coin hunting, and will generally be working the typical sites many coin hunters like to frequent. In my opinion, I think the Omega might provide the better option for these reasons:

It, too, has Ground Grab and manual GC adjustment. The TID display is larger and easier to see on the Omega and Gamma. from my experiences in my ground, I see the Omega producing a more accurate TID that tends to 'lock-on' more often than the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], and doing so maybe just a bit deeper.

Also, I tend to be considerate of what I feel a hobbyists might have to spend, or want to spend, and the value of what they get. Even if 'all iron' hangs onto the Delta and gets a T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], he'll still only have an 8" concentric and 11" Bi-Axial coils, but they don't interchange. This can limit a detectorists overall results and versatility, and therefore you would have to add the cost of a 5" coil for one of the two with the cost of the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup].

So far, with most of those hobbyists I have worked with as they try to decide between the Omega and T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], I find most typical Coin Hunters favoring the Omega, especially when you consider the "coil combo" package where they get an Omega with stock 10", and 11" DD and 5" DD for $799. I think it would be 'all iron' who we really need to hear from to let us know what interests him the most ... and why ... or hear what questions he might have to help pick between one or the other.

Oh, one other thought. Personally, I don't use Notch discrimination except very rarely, but certainly some coin hunters do, and the Omega provides that feature. My post was simply to help based upon what I considered to be a good value and fit for what 'all iron' was looking for. I never said the top dawg was a bad choice, and I kn ow that I have one of each on the back seat in my van and I'll be heading out within the hour to get some hunting is at day-break, probably with both of them.

Monte

 

[all iron]

Thank you all for your insights.Cost is definitely a factor and i hope to find enough quarters to pay for my next detector. I think the Omega offers the functionality that am looking for. Soil conditions seem to change frequently and i would like to have more manual control.

 

[bubbadirect]

Hey all iron! Where do you live/and or detect? I am in the Indy area but am looking for someone to go detecting with. I purchased an Omega 8000 last month and am still getting used to it, but absolutely love it!

There are so many here on this forum that are more than willing to help answer questions. I have learned so much from this forum already, and I will always be learning.

I tried to send you an email/message, but you have it blocked. Ugh.

bubbadirect

 

[all iron]

I live in Terre Haute

 

[jmaryt]

a valid argument can had for both detectors,and both of us have presented our opinions well.
i believe that the f-75,and ,or the t2 still represent better value OVERALL for the aforementioned reasons already stated
in my prior post.whatever his final choice,it is my fervent hope that the posts will ultimately help him make an informed
decision.

(h.h!)
j.t.