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Gold Chains?

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Today I had the opertunity to try my friends Beachscan on a small gold chain/bracelet. It was an air test but it wouldnt pick it up. I found the chain with a cz and small coil about 2 inches deep. Is this normal for a PI? Are any other machines able to do better? Thanks Jim
 
Yo Jim,
That chain was definately on the small side, BUT there may be some PI unit out there that perhaps Eric makes that could pick it up easily. Wish we had taken a pic of it so we could post how small it was.
The BeachScan does pick up larger chains rather easily up to some 4-5 inches in the air.
The 1266x picked the chain up rather well, but we can barely use the 1266 in the same state as a salt water beach.
Maybe some one can post a pic of the smallest chain their PI can hear.
I know there are several folks out there and active with their PI units, maybe they can help.
I kinda think you have unrealistic expectations with that small chain.... I dont know for sure.
I bet there is a TON of them chains out on the beach too just waiting to be found.
Tony
 
Hi Jim,
I suspect the chain you found is quite thin. If that is the case, then it is quite possible that the Beachscan couldn't pick it up. I have a PI designed quite similar to the Beachscan and hopefully will have a Beachscan soon. My similar designed unit will not see extremely thin or fine gold either.
Let me say before going any farther that I am by no means an expert on PI's. I have just begun to do some serious experimenting from a technical standpoint.
However, I feel I am quite knowledgeable on VLF's like the CZ.
VLF's do have their advantages and one of those advantages is the ability to pick up smaller gold. The CZ series are great machines, but there are other VLF's that will do a better job even on smaller gold. Most of them are designed for nugget hunting.
Does that make a VLF better than a PI? Not necessarily, since each has its own advantages and disadvantages.
One should realize that there are places where a PI will work so much better than a VLF including the CZ. I suspect that if you tried the CZ on the wet part of a salt water beach it would give you problems.
I also know what would happen in areas where there is a lot of magnetic black sand. In such places, the PI would excel over the CZ and most other VLF's.
The Beachscan is a medium priced machine as as such doesn't have the capabilities of some of the more expensive units. So in answer to your question, are there better units that are more sensitive to smaller gold, the answer would have to be yes.
Can you buy a more expensive PI and still not be able to pick up a very thin gold bracelet? Again, the answer would have to be yes. PI's are designed with certain capabilities in mind. Some are for finding large deep objects, others for finding typical jewelery, and still others for finding smaller gold. Also, from what I have read, PI's do a much better job in salt water than do VLF's.
I have no experience with Eric Foster's more expensive PI's but the raves continue on this forum and I would suspect that his Aquastar and Deepstar would probably see the chain.
I have experimented with changing the pulse delay and know that it makes a real big difference on a PI's ability to see really small gold. That is why I think the Aquastar for sure would probably see the bracelet.
There are a couple of things to remember when evaluating any machine, including the Beachscan, one is to try to determine the general purpose of the machine and how does it compare to comparable machines within the same price range, and two, where does one machine excel over the other. Finally, regardless of price, there will always be some condition where one detector will appear to work much better than another.
Reg
 
Hey Tony,as you know I am a novice at using any PI machine. From reading the post here it seemed The PI was the type machine to maybe find some of those small gold chains. I hope one of them does and if I can afford it I will buy it. Till then I will keep what I have. HH Jim
 
Hi Jim,
What you observed with the chain is quite normal. A PI
 
It would sure be great to be able to pick up these tiny chains easily. Can you imagine though, picking up every little fragment of foil from gum and cigarette wrappers etc. just to get a chain?? It would be murder having these things fall thru the scoop.
I wonder how many of these chains we would destroy while digging em up anyway! I am always amazed we dont wreck more items than we do.
When we going again?
Tony
 
The Aquastar is very sensitivity to very small items. I do spend a lot of time trying to find these items. I had to build a trap inside of my sand scoop made of 1/4 mesh stainless steel to help catch the small items. Even then there are items that will drop thru the 1/4 mesh. Having said that I do find very small gold items with the Aquastar. When I used to live in California. I used a modified White Goldmaster V/SAT to hunt fresh water swimming areas. While I did dig a lot of very small pieces of tin foil, etc. I did get very small gold chains. Bottom line to get the real small fine gold items. You have to willing to take the time to remove a lot of small trash. But sooner or later you will go home with gold most of the time!
Terry in Hawaii
 
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