gold ring info for the ace 250

[lazyaussie]

i tested some gold rings the other day with my ACE 250 + sniper coil & with all this talk about gold i thought i"d post the results.
b=big m=medium s=small ring, the karat is marked 9k-10k-14k etc, I've used the notch number from the iron side - iron = 1 iron/foil = 2 foil = 3 etc.
9K
b 6
s 4
s 4
m 4
m 5
s 4
s 4
s 3
m 5
s 4
m 4
s 3
s 3
m 5
s 3
m 7
m 6
m 8
m 6
m 4
m 6
m 6
m 5
m 5
m 6
s 4

10K
s 3

14K
s 4
s 3

18K
s 4
s 4
b 6
s 3
b 3
s 4
m 5

22K
m 5
s 3

24K
m 7

these rings are unmarked gold
b 7
m 6
m 8
s 4

i hope some of you can make use of this info.
lazyaussie

 

[lazyaussie]

sorry i forgot to say the rings were about 3-4 inch from the coil.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

You sure do have some gold rings to check there Lazy Man! I'd be delighted to find that many!
Mick Evans.

 

[lazyaussie]

yeah I've got a few it's taken me about three years to accumulate this pile & most came outta the water, I'm still looking for the big one though maybe I'll find it tomorrow .
I've been hunting a few grass spots that i reckon should be loaded with rings ( on the days i cant get in the water ) & have been researching books & adjusting my ears to hear the gold signals but I've had no luck as of yet hence the reason for the testing.
lazyaussie

 

[whadda]

that's a great amount of info , how many rings do you have,, I find the ring pulls giving the same signal maybe the only diference is the sharpness of the pinpoint, how do you get past this????

 

[Alan Applegate]

The findings are interesting, but testing in air is not the same as testing in soil. We need to remind ourselves about the technical aspects of how detectors actually detect, and how the soil's conductance effects the process. While there will be some correlation between the air tests, and any soil tests, the fact remains it is very difficult to normalize any testing procedure with a variable unknown; soil conductance in this case.

 

[slingshot]

Judging from your tests, I think it would be appropriate to say that the jewelry mode is appropriately named. The Relics mode is even more safe.

 

[John-Edmonton]

n/t

 

[lazyaussie]

whadda thats it for gold ones & as to pull tabs i dig em all.
Alan i understand what your saying, a ring thats say 4-inch or more in the ground may drop a notch but when i hunt gold in the grass i set the senc low & only dig targets down to about 3-inch so the info in this test should be quite acurate for me.
lazyaussie

 

[dahut]

the mid-range from 3-6 is your greatest chance at finding gold rings. I havent run the precentages on your findings, but that much is clear. I have never seen a 24K or 9K ring over here in the US, although Im sure they exist. But discounting the flyers, your information supports what we've said about where they will appear on the scale.

Now, how to tell pulltab from ring is the next step.

 

[dahut]

--- the mid-range, from 3-6, is your greatest chance at finding gold rings. I havent run the precentages on your findings, but that much is clear. I have never seen a 24K or 9K ring over here in the US, although Im sure they exist. But discounting the flyers, your information supports what we've said about where they will appear on the scale.

Now, how to tell pulltab from ring is the next step.

 

[Gene]

That;s some useful information lazyaussie.
Most gold rings on the sports fields I hunt
are within the first 3 inches. Your airtest
readings should hold up good at that depth.
Thanks for posting this. HH Gene

 

[Gene]

Sometimes using nonmotion pinpoint without VCO on a concentric coil
could size a pulltab as the signal is longer in one direction that the other.

 

[lazyaussie]

dahut 9K is the lowest UK standard of gold so it is quite popular over here in Australia, i wouldn't imagine a 10K ring would be to much different to 9K ring.
yeah notch 3-6 looks like the hot spot for most gold.
Gene i tend to take a ring with me wile hunting gold in the grass to compere the signals but i still find it hard to tell the difference between tabs & gold in the grass yet in the water with my excal i just get a feeling when i get a ring signal i"m right about 70-80% of the time if only i could do it in the grass .
I'm glad some of you guys found the info use-full
lazyaussie

 

[dahut]

dahut 9K is the lowest UK standard of gold so it is quite popular over here in Australia, i wouldn't imagine a 10K ring would be to much different to 9K ring.

yeah notch 3-6 looks like the hot spot for most gold.

I did some cunching of your numbers they look like this:

Rings sampled, TOTAL: 43

Breakdown by discrimination notches:

23 rings in the 3&4 notches = 53.48
15 rings in the 5&6 notches = 34.8%
3 rings in the 7 notch = 6.97%
2 rings in the 8 notch = 4.65%

Interesting here is that the majority of rings, 53.48%, fall into the range associated with foil and nickles. This is due to the overwhelming number of 9K rings.
34.8% are in what we call the pulltab range, which is double the numbers from the Fisher study.
The remainder are in the screwcap/zinc cent and copper one cent coin ranges.

I was a little dismayed to see the numbers for the 5&6 notches. This is where the more common higher karat values fall, but which is also a sure bet for pulltabs!

 

[Uncle Willy]

Most 24 KT rings are hand made as full karat is too soft for normal wear. You can bang it against something and dent it. If I remember right one ounce of pure gold is so soft and malleable it can be hammered into a 25 aquare foot sheet.

Bill

 

[lazyaussie]

yeah the 24K ring is as soft as lead & it's also quite strange it's made outta a piece of flat gold witch has been domed then bent into a ring, you just squeeze it onto your finger.
it had a plastic keeper to stop it from becoming loose & falling off lucky for me it didn't work .
lazyaussie

 

[dahut]

Sometimes using nonmotion pinpoint without VCO on a concentric coil
could size a pulltab as the signal is longer in one direction that the other.

Does this hold true for the square-ish pop tabs, I wonder?

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Dave.
There are a couple of pointers to telling them apart. Gene mentioned listening to the pinpoint. It's been a while since I've swung an Ace, but I did experiment with the pinpoint. There are some very small differences in the fade rate, but it is difficult to train your ear too. Pull tabs bounce around on the meter as you know. Although coins can bounce, they tend to lock onto a single notch. As rings behave like coins, it gives you another method. I've found that a square pull tab will always bounce by the sixth pass over the coil over it, so if you go for solid locks after that many swings, you'll not recover a pull tab. The catch is, that a percentage of good targets will bounce too. If pull tabs are shallow, they can give off a single beep in one direction and a double beep in the other direction. A coin (ring) will either double beep in both directions or a single beep. Pull tabs also have a higher tendency give multiple rapid hits when shallow. Items that are smaller tend to do this as well. Coins can, but not as frequently.
I still dig my fair share of pull tabs, but the above methods, do help.
Mick Evans.

 

[Gene]

You're absolutely right on that one Bill. I have a medallion that I had made
that is nearly pure gold. It's not real thick and they designed an intricate
dragon design on it. If I put my seatbelt over it while driving it will bend it
slightly. So, just like you say very soft. Nice looking though.
14K is much more practical in the U.S. for everyday wear.
Good hunting to you ! Gene