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Gold Signals on the Ace 250
- Thread starter TN Girl
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Uncle Willy
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Depends on the composition, size, shape, and white gold often comes up as silver.
Bill
Bill
lazyaussie
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"Depends on the composition, size, shape, and white gold often comes up as silver" good tip Bill.
i"v had gold come up on the TID from tin foil to penny.
lazyaussie
i"v had gold come up on the TID from tin foil to penny.
lazyaussie
Depends on size and composition, same as anything else...with white gold, it depends a lot on how much nickel and/or zinc are in the mix...nickel has lower conductivity than gold, and much less than silver and copper....goodly quantities of silver and/or copper in yellow and rose gold...goodly quantity of nickel in white gold..to make it "white".
OK - That answer wasn't as cut-and-dried as I had hoped for, but they never are. 
I may have the chance to help someone find a white gold ring. At this point I know nothing about it's size, composition, etc. How should I set up the Ace 250 to knock out anything that would definitely not be white gold?
I may have the chance to help someone find a white gold ring. At this point I know nothing about it's size, composition, etc. How should I set up the Ace 250 to knock out anything that would definitely not be white gold?
Willee - Texas
Well-known member
TN Girl said:OK - That answer wasn't as cut-and-dried as I had hoped for, but they never are.
Ture ... Contrary to what the detector ads would lead you to believe ... there is a skill tht needs to be learned to become proficient with a metal detector.
If you had an identical ring it would be east to discriminate all other non-similar metals but you dont so that is not an option.
Knowing if it was recently lost is helpful as it would be close to ground level and you could reduce sensitivity of the detector limiting it to a few inches of depth.
Knowing where it was lost is also very helpful as you can investigate EVERY target in a small area.
If it is a recent loss, then set your detector up for jewelry, reduce the sensitivity a notch, and search for a loud, strong signal in the gold range.
If it was lost over a year ago then use the detector as you would anywhere recovering all good signals.
Detect the area in one direction and if not found detect it from another.
If you dont find it that day try again some other time.
If it is there ... you should find it ... sooner or later ...
...You will gain valuable experience every time you use your detector your chance of finding the lost ring is very good if you are willing to spend the time to find it.
Furious T said:
So it's the composition of the gold that determines the audio/visual signals, correct? In other words, a gold ring with a high concentration of silver will give off a different signal than one that is high in nickel or zinc - even though they're both considered gold. Am I right?
Hi,
Willee is exactly right.
Take a gold ring of about the same size and density and put in the target area. Whatever it registers is more than likely what the lost ring will register. To be more exact, place the ring at several different angles and check the readings.
A thin 14kt ring laying at 90 degrees (lever with the ground) will sound different than a heavy ring laying upright. With the 250 is is possible (slow swing speed) to get a double beep. Thus, with this machine, rings generally, but not always, show as pull tabs. A recent drop should be easily discernible.
Roper
Willee is exactly right.
Take a gold ring of about the same size and density and put in the target area. Whatever it registers is more than likely what the lost ring will register. To be more exact, place the ring at several different angles and check the readings.
A thin 14kt ring laying at 90 degrees (lever with the ground) will sound different than a heavy ring laying upright. With the 250 is is possible (slow swing speed) to get a double beep. Thus, with this machine, rings generally, but not always, show as pull tabs. A recent drop should be easily discernible.
Roper
Hi,
Okay, several reasons. I promise to kkep it simple.
If you swing low and slow the coil can 'see' both sides of a circle or elongated object.
If you swing fast then the coil can 'see' two or more objects at roughly the same time.
Thus, to get a more accurate reading you can do the wiggle or X the location going slowly.
The 250 meter will bounce all over if you hit several targets with a single swing. So, it can bounce from pull tabs to big silver. Which explains the need for a small coil in trashy areas. A small coil will isolate a target instead of 'seeing' several at one time.
Every machine has a different swing speed to response time lag. Thus, if you place five coins three inches apart in a line on the ground you will note a different reading and sound depending on swing speed and coil size.
Generally, until you have a few hundred hours on a machine it is best to not watch the meter, listen closely (good headphones) and dig everything. After awhile you'll find you'll know what the signals mean and use the meter for verification.
Roper
Okay, several reasons. I promise to kkep it simple.
If you swing low and slow the coil can 'see' both sides of a circle or elongated object.
If you swing fast then the coil can 'see' two or more objects at roughly the same time.
Thus, to get a more accurate reading you can do the wiggle or X the location going slowly.
The 250 meter will bounce all over if you hit several targets with a single swing. So, it can bounce from pull tabs to big silver. Which explains the need for a small coil in trashy areas. A small coil will isolate a target instead of 'seeing' several at one time.
Every machine has a different swing speed to response time lag. Thus, if you place five coins three inches apart in a line on the ground you will note a different reading and sound depending on swing speed and coil size.
Generally, until you have a few hundred hours on a machine it is best to not watch the meter, listen closely (good headphones) and dig everything. After awhile you'll find you'll know what the signals mean and use the meter for verification.
Roper
White gold will come in lower on the meter..In other words two gold rings same size white gold should come in lower.
We all realize different kts. what gold is mixed with( foreign gold rings in particuliar) come in all over a meter..In other words my wifes white gold wedding ring will come in as a 7-8 on an XLT and a yellow gold ring of same size would come in 15-16 on an XLT meter to give you an idea of what I am relating to...I would think the average white gold ring would be a block or two below nickle on an Ace 250...
We all realize different kts. what gold is mixed with( foreign gold rings in particuliar) come in all over a meter..In other words my wifes white gold wedding ring will come in as a 7-8 on an XLT and a yellow gold ring of same size would come in 15-16 on an XLT meter to give you an idea of what I am relating to...I would think the average white gold ring would be a block or two below nickle on an Ace 250...
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah hunt the suspected spot north to south, east to west, and diagonally.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
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BINGO!
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
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Yeah depending on a host of variables they can come up anywhere. A lot of inexperienced folks leave them behind because they register as an undesireable target to them.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Best thing to do if you really want to find the ring is use all metal and dig it all. Detectors just aren't sophisticated enough to tell you when you have found "THE" ring.
Bill
Bill
Sorry I missed your question TN Girl...I think it may have been answered by others....trying to define what types of signals to expect from a gold ring is a bit like asking how long is a piece of string...Ithink you've probably picked up by now that gold rings come in zillions of sizes, when you take into account the actual ring size, the width and thickness of each ring and the shape of the ring itself, e.g. Signet ring compared to a plain gold band. Then there is the amount of gold in the ring, 14K, 10K, 9K, 18K, 22K and so on. To add to the confusion, a myriad of different metals can be used to make up the balance (besides gold) of metal in the ring e.g. silver, copper, zinc, nickel, iron etc. etc. The fact that all these metals have different properties regarding the conductivity of electricity (remember we're dealing with an electromagnetic signal from the metal object back to the coil) makes it almost impoossible to predict the type of signal which will come from "a gold ring". Even two rings which seem to be identical to the eye may not be identical to the "eye" of your detector.....anyway, enough of rambling.
One thing you can control when looking for something lost, is where you look. Where you look will be guided by the information you receive. Very important that you get clear and cool information as to how, where and when the ring was lost. Remember that the place where the loser of the ring first noticed it missing may not be the place where it was lost. Good luck..it's great to be able to help someone else.
One thing you can control when looking for something lost, is where you look. Where you look will be guided by the information you receive. Very important that you get clear and cool information as to how, where and when the ring was lost. Remember that the place where the loser of the ring first noticed it missing may not be the place where it was lost. Good luck..it's great to be able to help someone else.