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good old days, pt. 3

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Some of you have emailed question about some of the nicknames I've used. A 'HUN', is an F-100[ one HUN dred] SUPER SABER;
'THUDS' are F-105 THUNDERCHIEFS, and they got that nickname because that is the sound one made when it crashed. Now these planes are huge, I mean MONSTERS.
They were built so that they could also double as bombers by carring 'NUKES' in an internal bomb bay, were capable of mach 2.5., but there was a problem. Now B-52s have computers that allow them to fly so high that you don't know they are around until the earth erupts; and to be able to do this they have a computer that takes into consideration speed, height,crosswinds, the earth's rotation, and corrects for true north. They can literally drop a bomb in a barrel. The F-105 did not have this capability, so they flew at low level & around 400 to 500 mph. And a high speed wing at low speed means they can't manuveur. So not only were SAMs-surface to air missles, knocking them down, but also ground fire. Now not only do I mean arms like, .50 cal. machine guns, and 20, 23, 30, 37, 40 and 60+ milimeter anti-aircraft CANNONS, but also rifles. Once you get over 23 mm, the old saying is "if they can see you, you are in range." And they dropped from as low as 200 to 300 meters. Then they found out that sometimes bombs dropped at that level also destroyed the planes. Hence, the invention of the bomb known as 'SNAKE EYES'. When released, fins would pop out sideways and slow their descent enough for the plane to be out of the blast radius. The nickname came from the big circle in the middle of the popped out fins, seeing the bombs from above, and looking down on them, which is the only way you EVER want to see close air support bombing. So many THUDS were lost, that we literally ran out of them, and they were replaced by the PHANTOM. One time we had 4 PHANTOMS, after dropping their ordnance, fly over at about 400 feet above us; and then they kicked in their afterburners; an entire battalion hit the ground HARD, because we thought they had dropped bombs on us. Never heard anything so loud in my life.
The best show was the C-130 SPECTER GUNSHIP. This badboy had 2, .30 electric gatling guns, 2, 20 mm VULCAN electric gatling gun Cannons, 2, 40 mm BOFORS cannons, and 2, 105 mm HOWITZERS pointed out from the left side. The tactic was to fly in a circle, with the left wing slightly dipped, and at every point of that circle, you could hit the target, CONTINUOUSLY. I don't know the rate of fire for the 40mm & 105mm, but those gatling guns could fire up to 6,000 rounds per minute, per gun. At night I saw 2 firing on one target once, and the tracers looked almost like lasers, but the astonishing thing was that only 1 round in 6 was a tracer, so you didn't see THE OTHER 5, [UNTIL THEY HIT THE GROUND.] It was the grandest fireworks I've ever seen. The best known of the SPECTERS, was 'PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON.'
The other things that really put on a show was a squadron of B-52s carpet bombing some place to where it looked like the MOON afterwards. Being within 1500 meters of the impact area, made the ground under us turn liquid. They also had a bomb known as the BIG BLUE 82, which was a fuel air bomb, which literally acted like a GIANT cookie cutter in the jungle. It dispersed the fuel into the air, widely, then a charge set it off. Swear to god, the 1st time we saw one used, we all thought the U.S. had gone NUCLEAR.
But the blast area on the ground was a nice big PERFECTLY FLAT circle. And the size was big enough for 2 dozen Hueys to land in at ONE time.
Now I will tell you about my uncle, OLLIE [that was his given name]. He is one of the most famous characters in the history of the AAC/USAF. He was on OKINAWA after the war. Poker and booze was probably their most popular pastime. Late one night after a game, he decided he did not want to walk within the big roped off walkway to his hut; the circle was too big. So he steps over the rope and takes a shortcut.
Evidently, the muddy foot prints were noticed by someone higher up,the next morning, and everyone sharing that hut was called on the carpet for not staying inside the ropes. Turned out that particular area was an uncleared mine field.
But he is in the record book as the only man to accidently lose an ATOM BOMB. They were flying out in
N.M., somewhere, to make a drop. Bomb bay doors open, he hit the switch, and got a malfunction light.
So he hits the switch again, and the same thing happens. Well his BOMBARDIER, & FLIGHT ENGINEER go back to see what was wrong. The doors were open, but the bomb was hung up in the mechanism. Nothing works, even the flight engineer hauling himself up by 2 cargo straps, and jumping up and down on the bomb.[think that guy didn't have a PAIR]. They take out the fuse, and everyone goes forward to try to figure out what to do. After talking to higher-up at the base, they decide that everyone will bail-out, and just ditch the plane. No danger now of it going off, but if it came loose during landing, it would probably wreck the plane and kill everyone.
Then he gets a call from someone amidship- the bomb is gone. So they close up the bomb bay doors, and land the plane,back at the base. Everybody goes over the flight plan to figure out where it was dropped. The next day, EVERONE is out looking for that bomb. And they look,
and look, and look, for 3 months,......and they find it NOWHERE. They basically told my uncle "you find that god---ed bomb, or your ASS is out of the AIRFORCE. Well, they did not find it, and he did not get kicked out. But 5 years later a troop of boy scouts found it 100 miles from the place where everyone thought it had been dropped. And that is a true story. Ollie is now 85 years old, and living in an air force retirement community, and picking everyone's pockets by playing dominos.
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It must be something to see those Gunships open up. Must be horrible for the target though.
You say the earth would liquefy. Is that from the vibration? I have heard of it happening during earth quakes, the buildings can just sink in the ground but didn't realize bombing could do it.
It is good to hear from someone that was there..... Had to be terrible but the young don't seem to see it that way sometimes.
Thanks for the post
 
pulled the fuse. Can you imagine swinging a coil over that sucker! <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> Just like my mind, one brilliant flash then it's gone! <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D"> Great stories, keep em coming!
Dave
 
it will literally shake the fillings out of your teeth
 
really enjoyed this for I never knew some of these specs, but some of this post brought back some very frightfull memories......like for instance say you are out of morphine and down on your knees sewing up one of America's sons and hear your c.o. call in his own position con cor, alpha foxtrot, alpha foxtrot, and the ground literally dissapeared underneath you
 
be Uncle Ollie has a million stories he could tell. What I don't understand is why some of you guys like all this shooting and bomb stuff. My twenty year old son is at VMI and plans a military career. He just loves all the shooting and blowing up they get to do, and always has! He is not one bit afraid of getting called to Iraq, and it just makes me so afraid for him. He and his buddies are just so fearless! I wonder if he will stay this way the first time he realizes that the "other side" shoots back? <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
You stay home and make soap and wash our britches and we do the manly things.
Women just ain't mean enough, except certain times that is!! Then thems monsters. Change of life makes us all equal though <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
 
He has never been acquainted with his mortality, or held a friend who was bleeding to death, all the while telling him he was going to be alright and knowing there was no hope.
WHY are young soldiers so willing to go to war? It is the ultimate test of manhood. It's not like hunting a dumb animal; your enemy, is armed, smart and may know more than you. And when you put him down on his home turf, where he is the expert...you feel like a KING, or a GOD.
 
Women are not sissies because they don't understand war from a man's viewpoint. But, they understand war PERFECTLY.
Do you know it is the female lion, and tiger who are the most viscious, not the male. Everone has seen the film of a mother Grizzly bear fight off a male who may be twice her size in order to protect her young. Women are life givers, and that is something no man can ever comphrend, and I honor them for that and hold them in highest esteem. I don't want young men to go off to war, and that goes 2X FOR WOMEN.
Men see war as the ultimate test of manhood, because your adversary is not a dumb animal. He is armed, smart, and may better at it, especially on his home turf. To put someone down in his own enviroment makes you feel like a King, or a God. Unfortunately, the thing that young soldiers do best is die.
And you lose two of the most precious things a person can have, your innocence, and awe of the mystery of the universe. And the hardest thing you will ever do is NOT to pull that trigger.That is why we need soldiers of the best character, because restraint is the most valued virtue on the battlefield. I got to the point where I didn't want to see anyone die, including the other side if possible. War doesn't make one a man, or make one great.
 
They say that being within a few miles of a B-52 SQUADRON making a drop puts a seisograph off the scale.
 
good post, u sho gotz dat rite! <img src="/metal/html/glasses.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":geek:">
 
on this. I was glad to read what you posted. All these guys give me a hard time on here, but I know it's all in jest, (with the exception of Mike thinking a woman must get the beer! <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> (Just kidding Mikey!) I also know there is not a one on here that would not fly to my side if I needed them. Isn't that something? To be able to say this never having met any of them face to face?
I just know a lot of my friends were drafted. It was not their intention to be military career minded. They were too scared, and I am afraid that is why some of them did not come back alive! They didn't want to be there, but they knew it was their military duty to our country! I salute and say thank you everytime I get a chance to our military men and women, but it does not make me miss my friends any less. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
you go and say something like this. It's us sissy, girlie things that can make or break a man! Just ask Chuckie Baker! Ha!
 
I leaned much I never knew.It makes me appreciate even more those who served and those who are serving.Thank you for the story and thank you for serving our country.
 
your darn right we would.....with "live" ammo! <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
Wayner
 
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