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hunter081

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so im in my local civil war shop and start telling my friend that owns the place "long time collector and dealer" that I have a XP Deus machine. There are a few relic hunters there who are all older guys. They all use a machine called a nautilus and I hunt with a guy who has used nothing but since the 70s. Anyways they ask me how well it discriminates. I told them it shines in that department

They get out their trusty nautilus dmc1 and we go outside. My friend places a common 58 three ring civil war bullet on the concrete next to a piece of iron. His old machine destroyed mine in deciphering the difference. I couldn't get the xp to pick up the bullet for nothing. It constantly made iron grunts. I looked like a idiot. I tried stock GM power mode and stock Deus Fast mode

Than I tweaked each mode. Nothing I did I mean nothing would pick up the bullet back to back against the iron but the nautilus had no Issue. Even relic mode. Nothing

PLEASE DONT BASH ME ANDTELL ME IM A IDIOT OR THIS OR THAT, But if anyone here knows what I may have done wrong please educate me with positive feedback on what I can do next time to tell them the machine is capable.
 
Coil size on the units in question?? Disc setting on deus??? Factory disc setting on most deus programs will get rid of nail (average size) i.e. 6.8. This disc setting will drive your tone too. Bigger iron will need higher disc, maybe 10 or so. The disc circuit on Deus is supreme, unmatched by any other current detector period. Granted the naughtys are deep, but in nail ridden sites, they can't compete with Deus when properly set up.
 
I agree with Squirrel, that shouldn't even be a contest. I would go outside and recreate the scenario especially tinkering with Reactivity and Silencer. I just walked outside and cant get the Deus to not pick up a .58 MB next to nails or my digger. I basically had to cover the MB with my digger blade to not see it.
 
I did the same thing with a .58" musket ball and placed a ferrous object beside it. You could hear the two tones for sure. Not sure but on concrete you could have rebar or the mineralization acting on the Deus. Not sure since I am not as versed as most here on the Deus.
 
I don't know you or your friends, but is it possible that it was not a real 3 ringer. You said it wast their bullet. Did you handle it? It wouldn't be the first practical joke played on a detectorist.
 
First I would say so they have a great machine that is made for sidewalk hunting..now have them try the dirt! And then I would try no disc and my silencer at -1 and your reactivity maybe needs to be at three or four..
 
Low-Boy/LCPM said:
First I would say so they have a great machine that is made for sidewalk hunting..now have them try the dirt! And then I would try no disc and my silencer at -1 and your reactivity maybe needs to be at three or four..
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do you know what a nautilus is??? In the dirt its a beast.

Ill try next time but they turned on and went. The old timers laughed and said, why would you want a machine you have to tweak a lot just to hear a bullet next to iron. Than they doubted it could even do it.

Oh well, I still took it out and hunted that day.
 
I had that machine and in my dirt I didn't like it but the deus should hear the bullet if their machine did..nothing wrong with tweeking a machine..some of the old timers can take their old machines and run circles around most of us. If you mastered your machine then you should be able to hunt just about any place. Again dirt is where we find stuff not on sidewalks with the right settings I think your machine would see the nail and give a hit on the bullet if it is set up for that kind of hunting...but if you feel the Deus is missing targets get their machine it is not a perfect world in dirt and GB is key
 
Low-Boy/LCPM said:
I had that machine and in my dirt I didn't like it but the deus should hear the bullet if their machine did..nothing wrong with tweeking a machine..some of the old timers can take their old machines and run circles around most of us. If you mastered your machine then you should be able to hunt just about any place. Again dirt is where we find stuff not on sidewalks with the right settings I think your machine would see the nail and give a hit on the bullet if it is set up for that kind of hunting...but if you feel the Deus is missing targets get their machine it is not a perfect world in dirt and GB is key
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I own a nautilus. Don't use it much but I agree the old timers like Dennis Cox, Ken Hamilton, Arch Arbatine, larry Hickland and more would run circles around most of us with ease. The test was not next to a nail. It was next to a huge piece of iron. About 7 inchs long and quarter inch thick. The guy turned on his nautilus and bam hit the bullet. Moved iron away and made same tone. Than I heard what the iron tone was but owning the machine I already knew.

Im not bashing the xp, but nothing I did would even hit the bullet. maybe the concrete had a lot to do with it, but the nautilus didn't have a issue. Who knows. Moral of story is..........Don't show off your machine to old timers. LOL
 
That is funny.............Hey, these things happen to keep egos in check and sometimes, to let us know that old guys still have a few tricks up their sleeves!
 
What was your GB set on? Reactivity plays a huge roll in target separation. Did you pump style GB? What frequency were you in? 18 kHz would have helped because the wave is tighter. This allows the Deus to separate targets better. Good luck out there. I'll never go back to my other machines. I have a Garrett infinium for Virginian soil and ocean hunting. So yeah!
 
I do not have a DEUS, it is for sure on the list. But I will say when you have two metals that are close on the discriminator scale that can be very hard to find. The nautilus hunts in the all metal and discriminator channels at the same time, and have analog adjustment which has a greater degree of adjustability not to mention is powered by 4 nine volt batteries it can push it's signal in the ground. It is no toy, and it was designed for relics and is king at that. This is one reason why I still prefer the analog detectors or at least the analog interface type. The amount of adjustability on analog is infinite compared to digital which is determined increments. But with all the stuff I see on the DUES I would love to have one
 
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