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Has the G2 been sent out to dealers yet??? If not how soon can we expect them.... Thanx.

Some product development projects go smoothly, and some run into unexpected snags. Sometimes a product already in production can run into production problems. For the last half year production problems have been a headache for the whole electronic products industry because so many suppliers of components cut 'way back on manufacturing capacity in the wake of the crash of October 08. Meanwhile the world has not been standing still, and the original concept of how the "Gold Bug" product should be sold has been changing. FTP-Fisher are doing the best we know how to deal with this awkward situation. We regret that it isn't as pretty as Cinderella. The bright side is that to our knowledge, none of our competitors has any product intros worth apologizing for. But heck, that could change tomorrow, we don't know.

The "C-company's" units we are presently shipping are good metal detectors, as has been reported in the forums by those who have purchased them. In terms of basic performance, the other versions of this platform which we expect to ship will not be very much different. In terms of "cleanness" there will be improvements and there will be differences in mechanical configuration and product branding and bundling. Those are my predictions for the future anyhow. They are not guarantees: the only absolute guarantee I know how to offer is the kind you can see 2 miles down Zaragoza Avenue at Mt. Carmel Cemetery.

I realize that some of our customer base is curious why things have gotten so awkward in El Paso over this/these product intro. The best answer I can provide is that it doesn't matter to people outside the company why things happen the way they do, we don't sell "whys". We sell metal detectors, and sometimes we don't have as many of those available to ship as we wish we did.

A very few folks have speculated that the current situation is part of some grandiose clever scheme that was hatched a year ago. I laugh. We are a young company constantly reinventing ourselves, not something cast in concrete.

The Gold Bug/G2 platform machines will ship, whatever they are, when we're ready to ship them. Sorry about the confusion. Rest assured that we are not stockpiling machines and withholding them from sale. If we could sell and ship them, we would surely do that.

--Dave J.
 
Hello Dave, this is my first post on any treasure hunting forum ever. I have been closely following the New Gold Bug release for months now and I sure appreciate your latest communication on the subject. This situation has indeed become awkward to use your own word. Very few man/machine relationships are as intimate as the metal detector/operator interface as you are aware. In a previous interview you mentioned that one of the most difficult aspects of metal detector design is the "psychology" involved. For lack of further embellishment on the subject I assume you meant marketing. It seems to me that the awkward introduction of the New Gold Bug could have been tempered by more of what you have done above----communication. Whether you like it or not the above communication was the selling of a "why" and I don't think i needed too much more information on specific problems you guys are experiencing in production of the machine. I understand that we (the MD buying public), cannot possibly imagine the nightmare of assembling a complex instrument from parts supplied by many vendors. I gather from your tone (and possibly wrongly so) that you guys may feel a little "beat up" over the whole subject but honestly I think that all we needed was more communication. Factory sponsored "leaks" may be one avenue for communication but I for one sure got more from your above post than all the latest leaks combined. I guess we loyal Fisher customers feel a little disenfranchised by the perceived "gap" in what we consider a vital two-way relationship with your company and I would suggest that in the future that openness and honesty will go miles to repair any breach of trust that this situation has produced.

Sincerely,
Squitobait
 
Right on Dave....you are doing your best and on your other machines you have done a great job. I hope some of us can see that in time this machine will be on the market and will add to our finding history...
 
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In my World, that is a PRIMARY INGREEDIENT for S-U-C-C-E-S-S!! Keeping your customers INFORMED, Shows CUSTOMER APPRECIATION &
Basic RESPECT for your customers!! Are you LISTENING -- MINELAB!! MINELAB could take a page OUT OF Dave's Book!! Now if ONLY, WE could
get those IDIOTS in WASH. D.C. to read Dave J's Book!! And I'll bet DAVE J.-- DOES NOT have a HARVARD DEGREE either!! Give me Old Fashioned
COMMON SENSE & BASIC RESPECT Any DAY of the WEEK!! MANY THANKS for Keeping Us INFORMED of the situation!! HH, Les Robinson
 
n/t
 
Squitobait is right, we shot ourselves in the foot on this product into. It wasn't that anyone was trying to mislead customers, it's that for several months now, here in engineering dept. it has looked like we were only a week or two away from having the project wrapped up. After all, it was "just a matter of cleaning up some loose ends on the C-company's Gold Bug", which has been shipping since last fall and is a good product. It hasn't gone the way we expected. Meanwhile, Marketing dept. has been so courteous as to not shoot the engineers. I think they're waiting until the "real dealer" market versions are finally shipping, then Marketing dept. will bust in here with AK47's.

And NamVet is right, I don't have a Harvard degree. Almost flunked out of high school. Several years after that I tried going to college but after a few weeks I dropped out because I was flunking anyhow. Some people just ain't cut out for classroom learning.

--Dave J.
Chief Designer, FTP-Fisher
 
Spent my career as an Engineering Technician...worked with many engineers...mostly mechanical...but a few Electrical/Electronic. One of the best Engineers I worked with said to me..." do you know what the enemy of good is...? Better." he was criticizing his own weakness. He said if it was up to a lead engineer the product would never make it to market....there was always something to improve...and he admitted many times those improvements yielded little true results.

The Cabelas version of the Gold Bug is very good. To be honest you will not get the GB SE or PRo to handle hot rocks as good as some VLF's and honestly I have never seen any VLF gold machine that handled them with any amount of impressive rejection.

The Cabelas version is great. You should have released a dealers version of it. Make changes to it after you have received feedback from users. The feedback from ACTUAL users is far FAR more accurate than any field testing you can do. Then you could have released a Pro version with changes needed as dictated by say..oh..maybe prospectors...?

It is so sad you did not get the c version out in a dealer package..such a nice machine that needed nothing realy.

Releasing a GOOD machine is better than not releasing a BETTER machine.
 
Dave J

Thanks for the latest information, I have a G2 pre ordered, hopefully I will be field testing the machine in the UK

Can you give away any secrets on how good this machine will be ?

Using 2 Microprocessors. will this mean it will have a very fast recovery speed

I have heard talk its as deep as a T2 LTD

Any information gratefully received
 
pennyfarthing said:
Dave J

Thanks for the latest information, I have a G2 pre ordered, hopefully I will be field testing the machine in the UK

Can you give away any secrets on how good this machine will be ?

Using 2 Microprocessors. will this mean it will have a very fast recovery speed

I have heard talk its as deep as a T2 LTD

Any information gratefully received
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Mostly, fairly similar to the present C-company version Gold Bug with an 11 inch searchcoil. Recovery speed comparable to the T2, which is to say machine-gun fast. Discriminator a little quieter in iron trash than the T2, more like the Omega. Especially hot on low-conductive targets because of the 19 kHz operating frequency, but I suppose you figured that out already. Air hots in the same league as T2 but I'm not going to say as hot as an LTD in boost mode. A lot of users are going to like the way we set up the tone discrimination to be variable. A few may not. I expect it to be a killer on Roman sites, in the same league as the T2, possibly a little better.

People who think they need lots of features, the G2 and its brethren definitely ain't for them. They've got the most basic user interface of any high-performance general purpose computerized metal detector, simpler even than the Omega. And, although it'll do a creditable job on deep US silver coins, most customers who do primarily that kind of beeping would be better off with something else.

What most potential customers really want to know is 1. how will it do under my personal search conditions? and 2. will I like it? Those questions of course I cannot answer.

--Dave J.
 
Thanks Dave for designing this mahine, most manufactures never seem to bring out anything new

Teknetics seem to always be bringing out somthing new

I think I will love the discrimination variable tone, just set it to grunt on small iron nails,and dig everything else.

I believe this machine will be a killer on are small medieval hammered silver coinage

Still not sure what advantages Using 2 Microprocessors will have ?

One feature I would have liked to have seen is two operating frequency search modes 19 kHz and 8 KHz

That said I am very excited about getting this machine and reporting back some incredible finds with it
 
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