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Hey...I used notch...worked well!

REVIER

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Yesterday had a short hunt at a big park near me.
Found a nice Victorinox key chain knife near a lake where the fisherman hang out, always a good place to find knives of all kinds.
Settings were DE, sense at about 40, 4H, thresh at 0, disc at 4, 11" DD coil on board.
I was able to pick out the coins I left here, (I have hunted this bank area many times before), and it was easy with these settings.
Keeping the disc low I was still able to rim all the high tone pop tops and see the number drop and hear the low iron tone so I could avoid most of these.
The only thing that bothered me was some of the modern smaller sta tabs that in this park want to come in at about the 32-35 area just like nickels.
The jumpy ones that I couldn't get to stay within a 2 number jump were left in the ground, the shallow ones that were flat and laying flat in the ground so they didn't jump and looked, acted and sounded like a coin I dug.
I like nickels...I like gold better.
The knife came in as a high tone in the high eighties and that was a nice surprise.
I eventually moved over to another part of the park, had the park police come over and ask to see my yearly permit I buy every January and we had a nice conversation about how people are pigs.
He thanked me for cleaning up the park and I moved over to a very trashy area near a picnic pavilion, also an area I have hunted many times in the past.
The amount of those stupid sta tabs were worse here, I had tons of signals and I felt like hunting in a more surgical way and dig the least trash as possible so I did something I rarely have done in the past on any detector...I used the notch.
Settings were disc still at 4, thresh was 0, DE, I raised the sense to 60 and eventually 80 because not much interference in this area and I set the notch at 34.
The way I understand it this should knock out all the 25 to 34 numbers...and it did.
MUCH quieter now, I hate to get rid of a whole section where I could find gold but I will come back here again sometime in the future and hunt differently.
This notch setting was amazing...those sta tabs never made a peep and 90% of the signals and jumpy numbers went away.
Now with nothing getting in my way I was plucking out coins with surgical precision even if they were right next to trash which in many cases they were.
I found a locket with actual pictures still glued inside, and most of the clad you see in the pic was found after this setting change.

Once again the F70 performed as a champ and found me a lot of coins in areas that someone who was very good at coinshooting had hunted before several times...me!

Don't know how much I will use notch in the future, but in areas with specific ranges of trash that you just don't want to be bothered with I can see where it can come in very handy and maybe find less in that notch area but make it much easier to find targets not in notch.
 
Don't really understand the logic in using the notch that way unless you wanted to dig all the targets from 4 - 24. Otherwise, you could have set the discrimination at 34 and accomplished the same thing?
 
pine3874 said:
Don't really understand the logic in using the notch that way unless you wanted to dig all the targets from 4 - 24. Otherwise, you could have set the discrimination at 34 and accomplished the same thing?

No, I didn't want to dig all 4-24 targets, I don't dig everything in most lower ranges, either.
What I do dig are most solid signals that sound good and stay within a small number jump on the screen.
I want foil in because I have found gold and chains there, and I still want iron in because I rim bottle caps and listen for a low grunt and look for a number drop to iron on the screen and can avoid them.
If I just turned the disc to 34 none of that can happen.
 
Hmmm...good report...maybe this year I will try some experimentation with the rig, you know, go over places I've been hunting for the past 3years and just see what the settings can do to open the place up?...Thanks REVIER for your effort and great detail on the F70's set ups!:please:
Mud
 
I wish the F70 didn't block out such a big span when you do this.
I believe the F75 has an advantage in this area because it has a little more control and you can actually notch half of any specific number block and not all of it.
The only numbers that were really bothering me were between 32 and 35 most of the time, wish I could have kept 25-31 in there.
On the F2 which uses similar numbers, can't tell you how many gold rings and silver chains I have found at 24-29, but it is what it is so I will deal with it.
This is one of my close-to-me sites that I hunt often so I will return and check out more of these notched out signals another time when I have more patience to deal with them.
 
REVIER said:
I want foil in because I have found gold and chains there, and I still want iron in because I rim bottle caps and listen for a low grunt and look for a number drop to iron on the screen and can avoid them.

I use the 6.5" elliptical coil most of the time when hunting with the F70, so never have a problem with steel bottle caps. That coil is like using a laser to get in between all the trash. I just take my time knowing that those targets aren't going anywhere.

If I were to dig every solid foil signal(not varying even one number) in the trashy parks I hunt, I wouldn't have any time to dig any other signals. In tot lots, volleyball courts, lakes, etc., I dig every target.

I guess that is why there are so many possiblilites in the settings so that each person can find the right setting that suits them and the situation.
 
pine3874 said:
REVIER said:
I want foil in because I have found gold and chains there, and I still want iron in because I rim bottle caps and listen for a low grunt and look for a number drop to iron on the screen and can avoid them.

I use the 6.5" elliptical coil most of the time when hunting with the F70, so never have a problem with steel bottle caps. That coil is like using a laser to get in between all the trash. I just take my time knowing that those targets aren't going anywhere.

If I were to dig every solid foil signal(not varying even one number) in the trashy parks I hunt, I wouldn't have any time to dig any other signals. In tot lots, volleyball courts, lakes, etc., I dig every target.

I guess that is why there are so many possiblilites in the settings so that each person can find the right setting that suits them and the situation.

I have the 5" DD sniper coil but the same problem with pop tops.
Using the rimming technique they are no problem at all as long as my disc is set low.
The standard 10" elliptical is great around pop tops because they come in at totally different numbers than high tone coins and are easy to avoid.
I am very fast and efficient when I dig as long as I have a tool that lets me do that.
I dig all solid targets that don't jump more than 2 numbers, hunt in some of the trashiest sites you can imagine and I am efficient and fast enough that I still found tons of clad, a few silver rings, a couple of silver chains and 12 pieces of gold just in 2013.
Most of that was using sniper coils on the F2 and concentric sniper coils are my very favorite type to use, but right now the 11" DD is living on the bottom of my F70 and will for a little while longer while I learn all I possibly can.

I probably missed a few good targets along the way as fast as I move about my sites but my volume on good targets dug is high enough that I don't worry about it.

You are exactly right about those settings.
Since I am too lazy to change to the exact correct coil for each site, or hunt sites that usually have areas that are both wide open and also some trash pits on the same hunt, I am just trying to get good with any coil I have mounted and adjust those settings to get the best out of them no matter what kind of conditions I happen to be hunting in.

I have said it before...The F70 is a chameleon...it is like hunting with several different detectors depending on the different settings, and add in other coils and it gets even better.
 
Dude...I dont think you are missing too much!...like you said, volume of targets per outing makes up for it, and of course shortens your learning curve due to the enormous amount of targets dug and ground covered against a guy who goes slow and dinks around..aint nobody here gonna argue with your results! :shrug:..still, its fun to go back and see exactly what a fellow MIGHT of missed, just to see if a guy can narrow down a style to one that is the most efficient...Yeah, these F70's are surgical in the right hands...:thumbup:
Mud
 
mudpuppy said:
against a guy who goes slow and dinks around..
Mud
I thought the purpose of this forum is to share ideas and ways of doing things. No one way is the right way. There are many ways of doing things and each person must find what is the best for them.

As far as a guy who goes slow and dinks around.....this guy has so far this year found 9 pieces of 925 jewelery, 1 gold ring and $105 in clad.
 
Hey Pine3874... I was speaking about myself! :rofl: From the looks of your numbers, you definitely do NOT dink around, not that theres anything wrong with that!:rofl:
Mud

I agree, each location/day has a "right" way of hunting it...:thumbup: Good reminder!
 
The older I get, the faster I go slower.
 
Hey mud, if you quit drinking to excess you can probably move faster.
At the very least you will save some time because you won't fall down so much.:heh:
 
Lots of good information. Thanks for sharing.

tabman
 
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