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HH PI for cleaned out fresh water beaches...

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I would like opinions on using a Headhunter PI on fresh water beaches that are hit hard and cleaned out. I use a Excalibur 800 and I have beaches that are hunted hard and I can go as long as 30 minutes with no signals. Would a HH PI be a worthwile investment to work this type of beach? I know I will dig iron but any ideas on how much depth the PI would add to what I'm getting with the Excalibur? If I can get a few more inches of depth with the HH PI I would be a happy camper. I don't mind working to find the good yellow stuff! The PI would not replace my Excal 800 just supplement it to get depth the non-PI's can't.
Thanks, ArtWI
 
Scroll down page to Monday 19 January 2004,Paul did a dept test with some PI and Sovereign.SOV;is same detector as Excalibur except your detector is a water machine with a 8"coil,Sov; has a 10" coil.I have a Sov; In test by Paul in bad ground, the headhunter did same as Sov;
The Goldguest did best.Goldquest-SS will be best buy.No I dont have one.
You could also modify Excalibur,by puting a water proof coil cable connecter,to use a Sov; 8", 10",15" coil.Dont know where you can get one.
Frank-S
 
Hello Art,
Save yourself some money and first go with a larger coil "10 inch" to replace that 8" coil on you Ecalibur. Then, Hunt in all metal which will give you an additional 2" inches at most. You'll be surprised you can increase the sens when searching with all-metal.
You state the area you'd like to search are clean areas, All metal would be the best feature for this site with the 10" coil for your Excalibur.
Since you already have a underwater detector why not upgrade with a larger coil, The Pi's will gain a little more depth on the lower conductors over your Excalibur but in your case it would be wise to just add on the larger 10" coil. Don't go with a BBS coil larger than 10" if you plan to search in the surf or in water, The larger coils tend to create more drag and really don't add on that much more depth to the units operating with the BBS feature.
HH, Paul (Ca)
 
I bought one of the Goldquest's when they first came out. When wading deep sand fresh water areas I found that the Fisher 1270 w/ 10.5" in all metal digs as deep and you have the option of disc. Of course these areas are very low mineralization wise, so low that VLF's like the 1270 and Tiger Shark will not quite balance neutral, they stay just a little negative.
Tom
 
Boy, Art, you're thinking the same thing that I was, and I have an Excal 800 also. Regarding the idea to upgrade to a 10 inch coil, it's the same way I'm heading too. I was also thinking going the Sunray 12" route. But I have run into guys using the larger coils and they don't seem to do much better depthwise. My reason to get a bigger coil was just to cover water quicker. I too would kill for another couple inches for small gold.
I've toyed with the idea of using the Minelab to mark the nulls (iron) with pegs in the sand, then go over with a PI and dig any other signals. Of course I need a PI to test this out.
Last winter I took my Explorer to the local beach dry sand areas which is extremely hard hit by other detectorists with the thought of digging any signal. The only deepie I got was a half ounce silver eagle medallion (and I was suprised to find that). I'm kind of thinking that any gold of size throws off a considerable signal and in most freshwater beaches, they just don't get that deep. If you're trying to get the stragglers, maybe a Tesoro is the way to go.
 
with the 10.5 coil all of the 2002 season and I find that the Excal 800 is just as deep or a bit deeper and I love the tones on the 800. Moderately heavy minerilization here.
ArtWI
 
I used the Tesoro Stingray II 1999 through 2001. Found quite a bit of gold but it really lacked depth compared to the 1280x and the Excal 800. Never found much in the way of small gold with it. I hear some who use the Stingray II/ Tiger Shark say they set the sensitivity once and then never have to change it (it has to be adjusted inside the case) but in testing I found that with sens set to the max I could without any chatter the best it would air test a thin gold chain was 2.5" with the stock coil and 1.5 inches with the 10.5" coil. Maybe it's just the beaches (in the water) here but I found that performance on the Stingray II was very dependant on having the sens set as high as I could without chatter. If I had to rate the three water detectors I've used it would be #1 Excal. #2 1280X (close second) #3 Tesoro (quite a dropoff from the 1280x). This is my findings from the beaches I hunt it may be different elsewhere. I'm near certain I will be buying a HeadHunter PI to use along with the Excal and I'll sure let you know how it goes Scott. By the way I'm located near Westfield and Montello.
Good Hunting, ArtWI
 
I did check out the DetectorPro site and got some good advice there.
Thanks, ArtWI
 
but I find that the 1270 is much better all around on gold jewelry. Beats the CZ's on mens bands and pick up stuff as small as I want to go after. The iron disc mode is perfect for wading in the shallows where you can tune out as much or a little of the iron as you won't and hear the good stuff trying to come thru. Hard to say if the all metal GB would work in your condtions but the control box is a snap to remove from the handle and the P/P switch is easy to modify or remove.
Tom
 
That's interesting to hear about the Tesoro not finding you much in the way of small gold. The small gold chains seem to duck under my radar also, but I can find gold just a bit bigger than BB sized.. Your experience may have just dashed my dreams of buying a Tesoro and filling up buckets with small gold chains <img src="/metal/html/tongue.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":b"> .
I'm south of Milwaukee. My wife actually used to work with the owner of the HH line a long time ago. Post your results with the PI and if you have good sucess with the HH PI I may contact him when I'm in NY and buy one also.
 
Hi Art
I did answer you over on the HH forum. But a few things come to mind here.
Like Tom said, he has good luck using a 1270. I have to agree, it
 
Scott
Gold chains are tough for any type of detector, as the detector see
 
for a good reply. I'm going to get a HH PI by spring and when I can get in the water after the thaw I will post here and on the Detector Pro forum and let everyone know how it turns out. I'm sure I'll have more questions about using the HH PI as I go along.
Good Hunting, ArtWI <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
had to say about the 1270 in all metal mode over on the equipment forum. His ground is the nastiest in the US bar none!! Worse in many ways than Az gold country.
Tom
 
I can't find it. I'm not interested in the 1270 because I don't think it will last long in neck deep water lol. I've heard that the 1270's are doing OK for some guys. The first ones out had a glitch but once that was taken care of they've received good reports.
Speaking of bad ground I hunted a couple of days in Culpepper Va and that is also REAL nasty. I was using a Tesoro Banditto II uMax and could get about 4" deep at the most. The Fisher 1232x had just come out and a few guys were using them and they couldn't get a signal on a dime laying on top of the ground and when a couple of them tried their 1266's it wasn't much better. I also tried using a Tesoro LST and that wasn't worth much. The best detectors on that nasty ground were the Garrett 2500 and the Explorer which were getting targets at 10+". The local guys with the Whites were doing the best though. I kind of got off the original post here (sorry).
Good Hunting, ArtWI
 
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