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Hi Reg Note on Goldsan 5
- Thread starter RenoJim
- Start date
Hi Jim
I'm sure some of the ID confusing between older Goldscan's, and the newer Goldscan 5 is because, the 5 has a new audio/receiver circuit in it thats different than earlier Goldscan's.
This has a big affect on the ID'ing ability of the units, and how it handles the targets. A lot has been learned since the last Goldscan, (#4) was made about 1998.
Have a nice day
Mr. Bill
I'm sure some of the ID confusing between older Goldscan's, and the newer Goldscan 5 is because, the 5 has a new audio/receiver circuit in it thats different than earlier Goldscan's.
This has a big affect on the ID'ing ability of the units, and how it handles the targets. A lot has been learned since the last Goldscan, (#4) was made about 1998.
Have a nice day
Mr. Bill
Hi Jim,
Good to hear your response of how the GS 5 works. I would prefer to hear just what the GS 5 is capable of so don't be afraid of posting something different from what I post.. You have to remember, that I only have a modified original GS and not the GS 5 and there will be differences. I have tried to state I am using an older design and there will be differences between the machines. There will be a lot of similarities but will be very key differences also.
One of the reasons I do post what I see that can be done is to get people to try different adjustments. Eric's machines are extremely versatile and to get the most out of them does take some experimenting like you are doing. As you have found out, they are quite different from the ML's.
Since I only get to hunt for nuggets a couple weeks a year and those weeks are much later in the year, it is extremely difficult for me to justify the purchase of the GS 5 at this time. So, I have to rely on my experience with my older GS and my modified GQ which does have a form of ground balance that I built into it. Besides, modifiying the older GS helps me learn more about the PI in general and has been a good learning tool.
Also, you have to remember, that before you started posting, there has been very little feedback discussing the specifics of the GS 5 and its merits. Hopefully, there will be more comments in the mean time.
Now, you have posted some very key items that are extremely important about the GS 5. The fact that it will work quietly in areas where some other PI's will be noisy is a major factor that needs to be noted. The audio design is such that it is less fatiguing.
Some of these differences you have noticed are obvious on all of Eric's machines. The ability to lift a coil and not have all the racket that is so common on other PI's can be found on the GQ also.
Some features , like the iron "ID" feature are exclusive to the GS 5. Now, I agree with you the term that should be used is ID. I come from the "old school" where everything is discussed as "discriminating". If one can tell the differnce, I have always called it the ability to discriminate even if the difference is only in the tone or other feature. As a person who has used VLF coin hunting machines for years, some used a form of audio ID as a means of "discriminating" or ID'ing the type of item. I guess that is why I use the term. In fact, the old Teknetics Mark 1 (one of the all time great VLF's) has an an audio ID feature that was built into the discriminating mode, so it was generally referred to as a discrimination technique. Guess that is where I got into the habit of using the term.
Keep up the good work and postings. To be honest, I am learning from you. As such, I am excited about the GS 5 and leaning the differences between what I have and what you have. Aslo, I hope to get one in the future.
Right now, only I have only seen two people post much at all about the GS 5, you and Fred M. Unfortunately, Fred had the bad experience of not having a coil work. However he did blaze the trail and pointed out a couple of features that could be changed to make things better. As such, improvements have been made to correct the problems he experienced.
As I am finding out from experimenting, nothing is designed perfectly the first time around. If I had a nickel for every time I tried something that didn't work as planned, I would probably have enough money to buy a GS 5 by now.
Reg
Good to hear your response of how the GS 5 works. I would prefer to hear just what the GS 5 is capable of so don't be afraid of posting something different from what I post.. You have to remember, that I only have a modified original GS and not the GS 5 and there will be differences. I have tried to state I am using an older design and there will be differences between the machines. There will be a lot of similarities but will be very key differences also.
One of the reasons I do post what I see that can be done is to get people to try different adjustments. Eric's machines are extremely versatile and to get the most out of them does take some experimenting like you are doing. As you have found out, they are quite different from the ML's.
Since I only get to hunt for nuggets a couple weeks a year and those weeks are much later in the year, it is extremely difficult for me to justify the purchase of the GS 5 at this time. So, I have to rely on my experience with my older GS and my modified GQ which does have a form of ground balance that I built into it. Besides, modifiying the older GS helps me learn more about the PI in general and has been a good learning tool.
Also, you have to remember, that before you started posting, there has been very little feedback discussing the specifics of the GS 5 and its merits. Hopefully, there will be more comments in the mean time.
Now, you have posted some very key items that are extremely important about the GS 5. The fact that it will work quietly in areas where some other PI's will be noisy is a major factor that needs to be noted. The audio design is such that it is less fatiguing.
Some of these differences you have noticed are obvious on all of Eric's machines. The ability to lift a coil and not have all the racket that is so common on other PI's can be found on the GQ also.
Some features , like the iron "ID" feature are exclusive to the GS 5. Now, I agree with you the term that should be used is ID. I come from the "old school" where everything is discussed as "discriminating". If one can tell the differnce, I have always called it the ability to discriminate even if the difference is only in the tone or other feature. As a person who has used VLF coin hunting machines for years, some used a form of audio ID as a means of "discriminating" or ID'ing the type of item. I guess that is why I use the term. In fact, the old Teknetics Mark 1 (one of the all time great VLF's) has an an audio ID feature that was built into the discriminating mode, so it was generally referred to as a discrimination technique. Guess that is where I got into the habit of using the term.
Keep up the good work and postings. To be honest, I am learning from you. As such, I am excited about the GS 5 and leaning the differences between what I have and what you have. Aslo, I hope to get one in the future.
Right now, only I have only seen two people post much at all about the GS 5, you and Fred M. Unfortunately, Fred had the bad experience of not having a coil work. However he did blaze the trail and pointed out a couple of features that could be changed to make things better. As such, improvements have been made to correct the problems he experienced.
As I am finding out from experimenting, nothing is designed perfectly the first time around. If I had a nickel for every time I tried something that didn't work as planned, I would probably have enough money to buy a GS 5 by now.
Reg
Hi Bill and Reg
Thanks for reply and information that you both have given in your reply.
Reg you are right about the different setting you have a different unit. I have done a lot of field testing and the Goldscan 5 is not like a ML .
I have a few more great points about the Goldscan 5 that I will post later ; but for now I very happy with the changes Eric has made to the new Mod. Goldscan 5
RenoJim
Thanks for reply and information that you both have given in your reply.
Reg you are right about the different setting you have a different unit. I have done a lot of field testing and the Goldscan 5 is not like a ML .
I have a few more great points about the Goldscan 5 that I will post later ; but for now I very happy with the changes Eric has made to the new Mod. Goldscan 5
RenoJim