Hey guys...it's cold and time for a little research. Can Any of you hardcore Pulse users tell me about the Whites Dual Field PI? How deep is it really? Is it worth having on top of an Excal (or maybe some of you use only the PI). I'd like to learn from some of the PI pros out there and see what you think. Thanks in advance for sharing.
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How deep is a Whites Dual Field....really?
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I sold my TDI after the purchase of my E-trac!
I was looking for depth and sensitivity to small gold and only found both with the E-trac! The stock coil is great but with the Platypus it got even better.
The TDI with the stock coil has good depth about 10 inches on a quarter in good ground but so will the E-trac do 10 inches and maybe even a little better at full sen.
The key is can you run the TDI hot and I never found ground where I could run the TDI without ground balance on and that killed the depth. It will air test a quarter at 18 inches with BG off but drops down to 10 inches with GB on.
I also found it was hard to run in all metal so I ran most of the time in high conductor for coins, this was smooth and good depth with GB at 8.5 but you get all the nails.
I would not trade the E-trac for five of the TDI machines!
I also have the Minelab SD2200d with the 11" Minelab Mono coil and it is about the same depth as the E-Trac and a little better than the TDI.
In bad soil and black sand its a different story, the PI will rule!
Hope this helps!
Note:
The Whites TDI is a well balanced machine and easy to swing even with the weight, I wish Minelab would take a look at their handle design.
I was looking for depth and sensitivity to small gold and only found both with the E-trac! The stock coil is great but with the Platypus it got even better.
The TDI with the stock coil has good depth about 10 inches on a quarter in good ground but so will the E-trac do 10 inches and maybe even a little better at full sen.
The key is can you run the TDI hot and I never found ground where I could run the TDI without ground balance on and that killed the depth. It will air test a quarter at 18 inches with BG off but drops down to 10 inches with GB on.
I also found it was hard to run in all metal so I ran most of the time in high conductor for coins, this was smooth and good depth with GB at 8.5 but you get all the nails.
I would not trade the E-trac for five of the TDI machines!
I also have the Minelab SD2200d with the 11" Minelab Mono coil and it is about the same depth as the E-Trac and a little better than the TDI.
In bad soil and black sand its a different story, the PI will rule!
Hope this helps!
Note:
The Whites TDI is a well balanced machine and easy to swing even with the weight, I wish Minelab would take a look at their handle design.
I'm new to the PI game but I've heard that the Dual Field is deeper than the Surf PI Pro which I recently purchased. Now I've only been out with the Surf PI Pro 3 times but it's deeper than the other machines I have used during the past 40 years. Coin depth can be subjective at times but I believe that I was digging quarters at 12 inches in the wet sand with my gain setting at maximum. If the Dual field is deeper than that I'd say that it goes pretty deep. HH!
I have been using my DF for several months now as weather permits and I have no clue as to how deep it finds targets.
I use it only in salt water and I have been finding old, small, gold rings where I have hunted for a long time and have not been so lucky with other machines.
How deep? Who cares, as long as the rings keep coming!
CJ
I use it only in salt water and I have been finding old, small, gold rings where I have hunted for a long time and have not been so lucky with other machines.
How deep? Who cares, as long as the rings keep coming!
CJ
that I'm thinking about selling since I got the Excal II. I bought it new this Fall and have only used it a couple of times so it's in like new condition and the warranty is transferrable. I'll make you a deal on it if you decide you want one. I'll even throw in CJC's book on Pulse Power. Just send me a pm if interested. --Jerry
I have a Dual Field and until I got it, used a PI Pro, most of the time. I do not wade or use a scoop.
I dive and/or snorkel. No experience with Minelab, but the Dual Field goes as deep as I want to fan.
i do not use it at every site, I recommend a machine with a smaller coil for sites with lots of trash or
nails. Have had rotator cuff surgery once and about to wear the shoulder out again. Get one if you
want deep targets.
I dive and/or snorkel. No experience with Minelab, but the Dual Field goes as deep as I want to fan.
i do not use it at every site, I recommend a machine with a smaller coil for sites with lots of trash or
nails. Have had rotator cuff surgery once and about to wear the shoulder out again. Get one if you
want deep targets.
thebarnacle
New member
stick with the pi pro - i sold my excal i dont think it get the deep gold i didnt get on with it - when i went back in with my pi it was like been with an old friend again, guess i am just institutionalised.
diver4hire
New member
once i got used to mine ( dual field chatters a bit ) i have been digging some deep holes , you will dig a lot of trash but you will also get a lot of good stuff
arizonaames
New member
diver4hire said:once i got used to mine ( dual field chatters a bit ) i have been digging some deep holes , you will dig a lot of trash but you will also get a lot of good stuff
I noticed that. I have been using very successfully a MXT and at times I have some chatter. I was surprised at the chatter of the DF. I was wondering if that was normal. I could not get rid of the chatter with the Gain or the Threshold. It is deeper than the MXT but if I change the pulse to ignore pulltabs, I will miss nickles and gold.
diver4hire
New member
you just have to ignore the chatter and learn what to listen for and this machine will find the deep stuff
I prefer the auto ground balance of the Dual Field.
It has fewer false signals and isn't as sensitive to signal interference.
The Infinium is a great machine, but requires more tweaking and one must really stay on top of the signal by really concentrating on what it is telling you.
I believe the Infinium can under average conditions have a slight edge on the Dual Field, but that's just in my experience and surely will vary with each hunter.
No two hunters will get the same performance from a machine.
Also I have mostly used them water hunting with very little "on the beach" use.
GL&HH Friend,
CJ
It has fewer false signals and isn't as sensitive to signal interference.
The Infinium is a great machine, but requires more tweaking and one must really stay on top of the signal by really concentrating on what it is telling you.
I believe the Infinium can under average conditions have a slight edge on the Dual Field, but that's just in my experience and surely will vary with each hunter.
No two hunters will get the same performance from a machine.
Also I have mostly used them water hunting with very little "on the beach" use.
GL&HH Friend,
CJ
S.S.Tupperware
New member
Deep enough that I cant dig any deeper with my scoop.
crescenzo lombardi
New member
I am glad you asked this question, i love my Excal. I like the way it challenges my hearing and has a large area around the coil that is very sensitive , i often here objects two feet away and move in that direction and bingo, but i always wondered about pulse machines pure power. I have a DF i got a a few months ago and have taken it out a few times, it has not sniffed out anything deeper than my excal 2 and it is not nearly as much fun to use. I think it is all about patience with a pulse and I'm sure everything i have read about this machine will prove true after more practice. I have noticed that a smaller coil on pulses, like the surf PI can make it easier on a beginner as it is hard to move the 12 inc coil on the DF back and forth in a hole that is already 10 inc deep. I think it requires a whole new approach to digging in some areas( if not a whole new scoop) to get at a target 18+ inches down if there is a strong hydraulic. I agree with bdahunter right tool for the job, if you want to cover a lot of ground use the Excal if you need to go deep swing a pulse.