Hunted out parks??

[GA1dad]

I've decided to focus on a local mid 1800's park. This park and I have a hate-hate relationship. Not counting one wheat cent and a rusty pocketknife, all I've ever dug up there is trash. Now I'm swinging the T2 SE, and I am confident I will find something missed by all those that hunted before me,,,, with an e-trac and other top dollar machines. I figure my only real chance for success is to chase deep, iffy signals that no one else would.

My question for my fellow T2 users,,,, would it be better to chase deep ( 8 inches or more ) solid repeatable targets like say a solid 56 ( just as an example ),, or signals that seem to jump up and down from 50's to 70's?

 

[Mega]

If its a solid repeatable signal it has to come out,but as a general rule if the signal 'bounces' as i call it,but between 50's to 70's as you have described it its more than likely iron and i personally would not dig it.,another thing that could well be a better move especially on a trashy park site would be use the superb little 5'' coil as that not only goes pretty deep but has much better iron separation than the stock coil.

Iron masking with the stock coil could well be your biggest problem,especially if the stock coil goes over 2 targets at the same time and one happens to be iron,then it will null out the decent find,hence why its better to use a smaller coil.

 

[GA1dad]

Thanks for the reply Mega. I have swing the 5 inch in there a little bit. That's actually what I was swinging when I found the wheatie. One problem with the park, and other parks I'm sure is that it has been backfilled over the years I'm sure.

 

[chuck ky]

You need to dig the 80's if you want silver.

 

[GA1dad]

You need to dig the 80's if you want silver.

I'm with you Chuck,,, but what about when it's on the verge of being too deep to register valid numbers? I see it in my test garden. After a certain point, the numbers just nose dive. Granted, my garden is only a year old,, but I can't imagine a halo effect would make that great of a difference in TID stability.

Up until recently I have been committed to Boost Process. Lately I've been dabbling with 2+. I'm hoping maybe I can find some deep targets that have crappy numbers, but good tones,,,,,,,,, and it not wind up being foil or other junk. Up until now whenever I chase deep 80's, it winds up being rust of one kind or another. Just thought I'd try changing gears a little until I find another old home site to focus on,,,,

 

[BarryL]

If its a solid repeatable signal it has to come out,but as a general rule if the signal 'bounces' as i call it,but between 50's to 70's as you have described it its more than likely iron and i personally would not dig it.,another thing that could well be a better move especially on a trashy park site would be use the superb little 5'' coil as that not only goes pretty deep but has much better iron separation than the stock coil.

Iron masking with the stock coil could well be your biggest problem,especially if the stock coil goes over 2 targets at the same time and one happens to be iron,then it will null out the decent find,hence why its better to use a smaller coil.

I myself just got an T2se and using it with the stock coil noticed this I dug many good solid tones in the 84-85 range and about 7 to8 inches was coming up with dime to quarter size flat rusted pieces of tin or flat junk iron with the stock coil so I am going back to this location and use the 5 inch coil . I was running at 88sens 3 tones and 40disc I really like the t2 as it is a pleasure to swing also don't care much for the pinpoint on the stock coil either after about 2 hours I finally figured out it pinpoints right behind the attachment point of the lower rod

 

[supertraq]

Take about 2" off the top and see if it clears the signal up.
Works for me as little bits of iron can skew a good targets I.d.

 

[plugpopper]

I totally disagree about passing up deep targets that bounce 50s to 70s. I've already dug deep silver that sounded as iron in the low teens. This is why parks are never hunted out and those that are persistent and thorough find the good stuff. I've also dug three ringers that bounced down to the 50s so if lead bounces that low deep, I'm guessing gold would too. If your going to try and find anything in a park that old That had been hit with an Etrac you need to dig all repeatable signals, especially the deep ones or the ones amidst the trashy areas. I guarantee if it's been hammered by an etrac then it was most likely cherry picked so you're gonna have to get down and dirty! Believe me, I know. I have an etrac and a t2.

 

[Mega]

I dont hunt parks over here in the UK as 99% of park owners ie local councils dont allow it as they always use the old health and safety chestnut,i always hunt farmland for ddep targets,most of the time i also use larger than stock size coils to gain access to the deep artifacts and coins that we have going back 1000s of years.

Do i find deep gold and silver coins the answer is 'yes' Celtic gold staters and roman silver denari,both either single coins or part of larger hoards,the T2 has found me the most gold over the last 5 years,although i have been detecting much longer than that,audio is always king at greater depths as the TID starts getting un-reliable the deep you go,if and most folks over here in the UK who use all the T2 variations including my original green T2 will dig every signal over 40,but a avery good indication that a target is iron is when the TID bounces as i call it,you can call it what ever you like its when the numbers cannot lock onto a specific number range ie say a firm 50-52 but as i have mentioned before the signal bounces between 50 and 70 or higher.These targets have been dug many times just to prove what the actual target is and most of the time its iron.

We also tend to run a lower discrimination,in my case under 5,as if we knock out say foil we also will knock out our main targets which are ancient silver hammered coins,i also mainly use the audio either 2+ but in the last year 3 tones,most of my site are also not really litter with trash except say maybe a saxon or roman site,then i would use the smaller 5'' coil to get in between the trash and still giving me some depth as well.

So basically i dont do trashy parks or tots lots,my main targets and detecting sites are cleanish open farmland including ploughed and rolled and deep pasture,its these deep targets coins and artifacts that i am after,which then means that i will use either my large 15x12 SEF coil or even my BIG 17'' NEL coil,or if extra depth is require below the plough line then a Nexus dual 9'' coil VLF machine is used or on clear pasture the TDI Pro.

The T2 is still my favourite machine and as mentioned has also found me the most gold coins and deep artifacts.

 

[chuck ky]

Are you saying that a target that would read 88 like our quarter when very deep will give a lower TID but will still give the high tone in audio?

 

[Mega]

Are you saying that a target that would read 88 like our quarter when very deep will give a lower TID but will still give the high tone in audio?

I am not saying that at all,audio is far more reliable in providing information than a screen will offer at greater depths,i also use a Deus but as that is also more of a audio machine i seldom carry the controller with me,if i do its mainly for fine tweaking of settings,but when you start getting down deeper than say 8'' you can still pick up a decent audio signal but in the case of Deus it may not even show a TID No.

Thats the way that i have always detected by relying on what my ears tell me from the audio response rather than screen watching which can start getting un-relable the deeper you go,i am looking for deep targets mainly so this is why audio is used more than what the screen tells me.

Of course we all use machines differently and adapt the use to the targets that we are hunting or the ground conditions,and for me the deep targets that are usually the best ones are deeper especially on pasture sites when a target that could be a few thousand years old would/could be much deeper than say a quarter in a park at 4-6'' depth range.If i relied totally on a T2 screen then at depths of 10-12'' with a bigger coil would still give the decent whisper signal on the audio but may well not show anything on the screen.

 

[bleeohio]

It depends a lot on what tones you use as some give a continuous and some give sampled. The sampled tones/vdi will not jump around as much and lock on to a target better, but,, the continuous will spike on deeper items and you have to look at the highest point in the signal and go by that, it also helps to size the target. Also helps to run lower disc. if there is much iron present and you will hear the good targets jump out of the low tone iron grunts. My soil is pretty mild though so I'm sure that makes a difference. good luck , I love the challenge of hunted out parks.

 

[GA1dad]

Just a quick follow up. I returned to the old park for a couple of hours yesterday afternoon.I was running the T2SE at 90-10-2+ with the 5 inch coil. I selected an area close to the main road as I had never actually seen anyone swinging near the road,, and there are some exposed roots there, indicating maybe there hadn't been any back filling in quite a while. I worked it real slow and tried my best to ignore everything shallow. The EMI was real tough with both over and underground power lines, Changing the frequency didn't help either. I just lowered the sensitivity, and dug my heels in.

I think I dug only 12 plugs in that 2 hours. For the most part it turned out to be the infamous rust signals. But I did find one relic the was on the "other" section of my bucketlist,,,,, a #3 hem weight. It was about 5 inches down amongst some tree roots. It's not much, I know,,,,, but at least I wasn't skunked.

 

[CoinHunter2]

You are right on with your statement. I have dug silver dimes with a high tone at 9" that read on the VDI as iron or the VDI number is jumping all over the place but had a high tone and popped out deep silver.

 

[supertraq]

Run your machine with 0 disc. and see how much iron is in the ground. You find its like a machine gun,now the pieces of iron do skew your target I.d every time. You are missing a lot of good targets if you don't dig everything above iron.
Find a spot that has bits of iron hitting and cut a plug and put a copper penny or dime on the hole,you'll be doing good to get a chirp of a signal or at least a 60's-70's reading.

 

[MikeyMinx]

Good Stuff. Thanx Guys ...