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I got a Safari this week.:clapping:

markinga

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Hello, everyone! I got a decent deal on a Safari, 5" stealth coil, pinpointer, and the Minelab generic carrybag.
About me: I got into detecting back in 2000 with a Garrett Ace 300 which sported the old crossfire coil. About the same time, a buddy of mine bought a Whites XLT Spectrum. He paid about a grand for it at the time. I thought, if I had the money for a state of the art detector, which one would I buy? So... I pitched an idea to the leading manufacturers about writing a review of their flagship detector from a beginner's point of view. Three companies jumped on this without hesitation. Garrett, Fisher, and Whites each loaned a detector to me for a month or so and in return, I gave them my review. By this time, Whites had released the DFX. Each was an amazing machine in its own right and each was VERY different from the other. I had to learn each machine quickly and then logged about 10 hours of use in various locations. The Find's Forums were invaluable to get me up and running quickly. The GTI 2500 had the best pinpointing and accuracy of depth. I rarely used a pinpointer with this machine. I got my first Merc and my first diamond ring while testing the 2500. The CZ 70pro was the simplest to operate and, like the GTI, it went deep. I got a merc, a buffalo, and an Indian head in less than an hour one afternoon. The Indian head (my first) was about 8 inches down. This was with the stock 8' coil. The DFX was a monster with about 44 adjustable parameters. It could do some amazing things, but it did not have the depth of the other machines. On the other hand, it worked well on the beach. The DFX can also sort out targets from trash better than most machines if you know how to use it's many features. While I preferred the other two machines, Whites made me a deal on the DFX that I could not refuse and I have used it for the last 13 years. I got quite a bit of gold and a platinum ring that paid for the machine. I've done almost as well with my little Ace 300. This is because I know the machine and how to get the most out of it. My experience with these machines taught me that you have to take the time to learn each one. Always start from scratch and forget about how your other machine works. I have read negative reviews for each of those detectors and they were usually form someone who did not take the time to learn the machine. That's enough of that. I have waited too long to jump on the minelab bandwagon!

I have Achilles tendinitis so I cannot get out with the Safari :cry: I have been reading and watching and learning. I did hobble out to the front yard yesterday and played a bit. Right now the ground is so hard that I cannot dig deep, especially with a bum foot. I took someone's advice to either Elton or Flintstone and did the noise cancel about an inch off the ground, hunted in low trash, and notched out everything from 22 down till I get used to the machine. I got the hang of the pinpointing and dug up a couple of pennies from the 60's, a screw top, and an old fashioned roofing nail. When I can walk without a cane, I'll hit a playground that is an endless source of clad. That should help with the leaning curve before I go for the silver.

A couple of questions:
Some of you recommend "crossover" programs. Do our recommend modifying a conductivity program and saving to one of the ferrous keys or the other way around? ...or does it depend on what you are hunting?

Andy's book seems to be out of print. Do you still recommend it? If so, how can I get a copy?

Lastly, does anyone have instructions for how to put the detector in the minelab generic bag? LOL! Illustrations would be awesome.

Please feel free to offer advice/criticism on my game plan for learning the detector. When the ground is softer, I'll make a target garden.

Cheers! :cheers:
Mark
 
where you cross save to depends what type of sounds you would like. I prefer the ferrous sounds.

If you cross save to either relic or the all metal button you will have the Ferrous sounds

If you cross save to the coin or coin/jewelry you will get the Conductive sounds.

I like the Ferrous because then the silvers will give you a high sound. Just a matter of preference.

Congrats & good luck with it.
 
Ditto MetalMiner's comments above. When you can get over the tendinitis and start swinging that Safari, I think you will be delighted to see it's performance. I twisted my ankle yesterday so I'm icing that at the moment. I had planned a beach trip tomorrow but doubt that will happen:cry: If I can get the swelling down, I may hobble out to a local park and put in an hour or two!!! You have had some experience with some other great machines but it's been my experience/observations that no matter if a guy has a top end machine, if he does not take the time to learn how to operate it the way it should be operated, it won't do him much good.
I have Andy Sabich's books and he makes mention to that fact in one of his books. The M.L. Fbs machines have awesome performance and it's worth all the hours you have to put in to learn what the detector is telling you. Looking forward to seeing some great finds! Good luck!
 
I think most folks set up their discrimination pattern in ferrous. I do as well for the same reasons cited above by MetalMiner + I absolutely HATE those stupid icons. But that is the only thing I hate about the Safari. Its truly a silver hound. If you get it over silver, it will tell you about it. And don't get frustrated if it takes a while to understand the machine, FBS is a tough nut to learn.
 
Thanks, GS and Amen. You gotta put the time in and be patient. It's kinda like fishing. I also picked up an Explorer XS. I always wanted one and they are dirt cheap now. I will wait a while before I tackle that one. I know it will be tough but it is my idea of fun. I also like putting staples in my forehead. :tongue: Just kidding of course.
 
Hey, Goldstrike! I Forgot to say, get better soon! Once the swelling goes down, do some rotation and stretch exercises. When you can stand it, get on a stationary bike a few minutes everyday. Or, you could ride a bike out to a place to detect. The peddling will help strengthen your ankle fast so it will be less likely to turn again. BTW- I hunted St. Simons beach here in GA a couple of weekends ago with the DFX. I found a men's 14k gold band about 15 minutes in. Gold is great! I am looking forward to going back out there with the Safari in the fall.
 
Markinga, thanks so much your concern and for that great advice! It is very much appreciated and between Ibuprofen and an ice pack, I plan to be up and about tomorrow! (ankle willing)!!!
Congrats on the 14K ring! Isn't it a great feeling to get a great target so soon after starting to detect! That has happened to me as well, finding something great just starting detecting and also a few minutes before quitting a hunt.
You might want to put a 'wanted' request for Andy's book/s (he has had a few published so far) on the 'Classified' Forum.
You also might want to email him directly through his website: www.sabischbooks.com Who knows, he might be able to scrounge one up for you LOL!!
 
Hey markinga, Congrats on a great machine just wait till ya get to the beach with it (just ask Goldstrike). I had one (wish I still had it) some time back and took it to the treasure coast,
I was digging coins at 15" and was digging many deep targets that had been in the sand a long time. Hope you have fun with it. HH, Dale
 
Very cool story. Sorry to hear about your foot. Ferrous tones for sure you wont dig iron near as much this way but silver and high conductors still sound great. Silver is unmistakable. You will love this machine coming from a whites I know I sure did. Good luck.
 
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