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This was found today, by OneidaKenny on top of the ground. Not sure of what it is, believe it's a 1Real Charles IV portrait coinage with date 1791.
 
After I found this coin , literally on top of the ground , i did as I had promised the owner , and showed him everything I had found. To my suprise, at this point, he said we needed to talk, and proceeded to go into how he wanted to keep everything found there with the house. To be honest my first impulse was to throw the coin and tell him to go spend the $1000+ and spend the countless hours on a new machine, and find them himself. I then realized I had broken a cardinal rule and not gotten in writing beforehand exactly what the situation was regarding finds. I can guarantee this won't happen again! Anyhow it is my first old silver, and I am happy with finding it.
 
Just recently told by an owner of a farm that dates to 1830 that I could detect all around the house or any place else if I want. First any suggestions how to handle any finds with the owner. Second; Being kind of new with this ExII, with a stock coil, What would be the best suggested settings for a first pass on this property? I am not looking to get rich at this game and will most likely donate the finds to the local town museum for display. A little help would be appreciated
Thanks Ahead
Fred D. Upstate/central N.Y.
 
If I was you, I would have kept those coins. Yeah you may not have told him that you were going to keep the coins, but he didn't tell you ahead of time that everything you find you'd have to hand over, either. He said he wanted to see them when you finished.
In writing or not, what you find is yours. I think it's quite ignorant of someone to think that another person would be willing to waste an hour or two to search their property and then hand everything over for nothing! Think about it; if you were in his position, would you really have done what he did?
Just my take on this.
Jeremy
 
Fred I would make sure u had an agreement with the owner, whatever u decide to do. Come to a mutual understanding and stick to it. I was using factorty settings as I am still learnign the machine. GL
 
Me being the Ahole that I am, I would have verbally ripped him a new one. Most time I offer coins to the land owner. Where I found the thimbles I took him all the coins and gave him and told him about the thimbles and counterfeit. But when they get greedy like that it torques me. With the way he did ya, I will bet you $5 he will start telling everyone you found gold coins and wouldn't give them to him. Heard of it happening before anyway, not with me. The simple fact that he asked to SEE the coins and you promised to show him what you found means that you had an un spoken agreement who was keeping the coins. Showing is not giving.
 
This is my way of handling it. I stare at them and say one moment. Then I come back with a bill. It would read something like this.
1. 8 hours at $50.00 an hour= $400
2. 3 meals $20 ( I like steak)=$60
3. 8 Batteries $5.00
4. 10 gal of gas there and back = $23.40
5. detector rental, $20 an hour 8 hours. = $160
6 look on there face Priceless. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
Just remember in a court of law, if he wants to claim it as his property he can. You would be a fool not to charge him. I'm sure the jury or any judge would side with you on that issue. A verbal agreement is all he has to go on,unless you have a bill not paid. that's a whole different matter.
Tom
 
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