your own "
wants" and "
needs." Others have their opinions more suited for themselves, me included, so don't ignore what you consider to be a good point or a bad point in your detector selection.
Tajue17 said:
hello everyone,, up until this thought I have been pretty much Tesoro machines only other than a Fisher 1212 which is the same as a tesoro.
The Fisher 1212 is not the same as a Tesoro. It's
similar in that it is a non-display design, and "simple," like many lower-end Tesoro's, but it's not a Tesoro.
Tajue17 said:
I'm thinking about getting my 1st real machine with a display and have been checking out the teknetics.. I don't know much about but where my wife has a fisher and everyone else seems to want garret I like to be diffrent and find somethign different.
I agree with you about wanting to pick something other than an older Fisher or most Garrett's. For
me they just are not as comfortable, or have the same variable Discrimination I like. My main-use detector models are from White's and Teknetics. I take into consideration the fact that I'm aging and falling apart faster than I desire
I like to have ample performance out of any detector I use, but at the same time I like to keep things as 'simple' as I can. I don't like to tinker around with a lot of menu options and touch-and-scroll all over the place to try and pick-and-choose some settings. I like simple.
One way to keep things 'simple' and at the same time expect 'performance,' is to not put too much faith in the ability of some features to work when they really can't. I refer to you wanting to have your first detector with a visual TID or VDI display. More on this in a minute.
Tajue17 said:
what do you guys think of your machines and if money is not an issue which model would you get if you where not familiar with any of em.
I AM familiar with all of the Teknetics models. Regardless of the amount of money I could invest, I would always opt for the model that gives me the most performance for the dollar invested, as well as the easiest operation. Of all the Teknetics models
currently in production, I like the Omega 8000 the best. Why? Because I use it a lot and it works well for me. I like the automated Ground Balance with the benefit of being able to tweak the adjustment needed or as desired manually. The control face has a great display with the TID and VDI info bold and easy-to-see, as well as the Coin Depth read-out and a lot of other info you might need.
Pinpointing is easy, the search coil selection is also very good, and I have found the TID and VDI read-out info to lock-on better and respond better in bad ground environments or when coins are just a little deeper than the top-of-the-line T2. The T2 is a very good detector, but many urban coin hunters have found that it doesn't 'lock-on' to targets as well or as deep as the Omega. I have had success using the Omega.in both typical city environments and rural, relic hunting out in the country, deserts, and mountains.
Tajue17 said:
I need ease of use,, has to be simple, it has to be accurate and of course as deep as possible. this machine would be for my relic and coin stuff over woods, fields and old roads and home sites.
All Teknetics models, from the Alpha to the T2, could be considered 'easy-to-use' depending upon how simple or adjustable a person wants their detector to be. Not a lot of fluff to them, just practical and functional adjustments. Some people can only afford, or don't get into the detecting sport enough to want more than, one detector. Others, like me, like to have 2 or 3 or 4 detectors in heir personal arsenal, each picked for certain functions. The reason is that there is no 'perfect' detector out there. You can get one multi-purpose detector that can do a lot, but for some of us, having a small detector battery can be more versatile.
Some, as I mentioned, might have a visual display that locks-on a little better, such as the Omega or Gamma usually doing better on some coins than the other Tek. models. If you want a true "zero disc." capability, only the T2 provides that lowest setting of the current Teknetics line. If you want 'simple' yet very good performance from a factory preset Ground Balance model, the Delta must be considered. Also, don't get too caught up on image, either. I have couple of older friends who both detect, and he has a top-of-the-line detector, but struggles to deal with the weight and trying to figure it out. She has an upper mid-priced model that is very versatile, yet easier-to-use. In November or December, he bought a lower-end model, half the price of what his wife uses, and he's enjoying it more, and finding more.
"Depth," that one word that seems to pop up in almost every conversation I've had about metal detectors since March of '65.
Who knows what depth you can get? What coil might find a target deeper? Just how deep are targets at most sites probably going to be? What sweep speed must I use to get the best performance at a site in order to achieve 'depth?' At what point can I no longer trust or rely on the visual Target ID or the audio Tone ID to be accurate? Do I even need visual TID or VDI when hunting 'deep' targets? How will the targets I am seeking, in a "Relic Hunting" search respond on the visual display?
All of these things must be considered, and to get really serious and be successful, you need to know when, and when NOT to rely on a display model for the types of hunting you plan to do. I can't tel you how many times I have had great success following others, and many of my savvy detecting buddies experience the same, by recovering good targets others have missed. I know, we all can miss targets, but for about thirty years now more and more hobbyists buy a Target ID mode, and then buy-into the belief that TID is nearly perfect! They get more and more lax in their settings, ignore more 'iffy' signals, sometimes hunt with a faster sweep and move along at a brisker pace than what would be most efficient. If a glance at a display doesn't 'lock-on' as they like, they ignore the target and keep on moving.
Both urban coins hunters, and many folks who want to "relic" hunt, fall prey to the misbelief that TID is perfect. Many good finds are left to become more masked by additional modern day trash that will come. It pays to learn a detector, to know what the detector provides in the way of adjustments and functions, such as display and audio information, and then master the art of patiently hunting a site with the settings ...
and desire .... to be successful in your search.
Yesterday, I shipped two units off to a fellow who has visions of hunting up coins in his community, searching for relics, and maybe finding some hidden gold. His girlfriend will jioin him, but he wanted a 'simple' detector for her. He bought the Omega for himself, and a Delta for her. Both have good potential for their price-point, and I know my Omega travels with me all the time and gets a lot of use ... and serves me well. But I bet I'll hear comments during the first couple of months about her finding more than him, simply because she will be using a more ready-to-go model [size=small](and finding stuff)[/size] , and he will be learning controls he is not familiar with. [size=small](First detectors for both of them.)[/size]
In trying to decide what you might want to pick, try to find a dealer in your area and go check out the different models. Otherwise, you're only going on our opinions. any of the are good, I am sure, but he ate OUR opinions and you need to form your own, as best you can, before taking the plunge.
Tajue17 said:
,,,,, also who is the #1 Teknetics dealer,, specifically a dealer who personally uses one and not just sells them.
You can check these forums for Teknetics Dealers or go to the Teknetics website and look for any dealers close to our area. You concluded with a great question, too, and that is finding a dealer who actually is a detectorist and uses the equipment. I am all for it, and wish ALL detector dealers were avid users.
Best of luck in finding the right unit [size=small](or units)[/size] for your hunting needs.
Monte
