not sure about stateside ,but this side of the pond a fairly new brand of aftermarket coils are appearing MARS coils apparently made in the ukraine ,at this moment in time there appears to be only one u.k importer BUT there is a waiting list for these coils ,so i suspect that the word of mouth from owners is spreading fast ,not seen one or tried one but funds allowing i am thinking of getting one of the mars tiger coils for my t2se as they become available .so any thoughts on this would be nice to here d.j's appraisal ,as there seems to be a awfully large spread of sizes on these coils
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mars coils any comment D.J
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drifterman
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you wont get a comment from Dave on aftermarket coils, other than not recommended. use FT coils they work !!
yep thats fair comment ,the only trouble is that there doesn't seem to be much choice with FT coils for the T2 ,yet over in europe theres literally dozens of aftermarket coils for it ,and being a popular machine the demand is high ,i also realise that we search far differently over here to the way its done stateside so need different coils for different applications i.e big coils for searching flat wheat stubble fields or ploughed and rolled fields where a search window time is limited ,to small elliptical coils like the whites one for searching in-between maize stubble or rape stubble ,also our finds are totally different tiny little silver hammered or cut halfs or quarters need a completely different coil size type to one built for searching for dimes and nickels .
Was speaking to the main UK dealer this afternoon and he had just had a shipment into day,very tempted myself,the Goliath coil is the one that i am after,very light for its size,could well be worth giving him a ring on monday,they are possibly the best coil range for the T2 around at the moment.Not only on performance but build quality and the weight of them is pretty amazing especially when you compare the weight of the 15'' Goliath coil to the T2 15'' coil as they are like chalk and cheese.
I'm not personally opposed to aftermarket searchcoils, it's a simple fact that the economics of accessory searchcoil design and marketing tend to favor small independent producers provided that they know what the heck they're doing. Which doesn't come easy, half of what goes into an induction balance searchcoil is voodoo and black majick. What puts huevos rancheros on my breakfast table isn't accessory searchcoils anyhow, it's metal detectors. Factory accessory searchcoils are a very small part of our business. .
Sometimes an aftermarket accessory searchcoil is so good that people buy a particular make & model metal detector in part because of the specific aftermarket searchcoils available for it. Back when Karbowski was still alive, he made "bigfoot" and I think "littlefoot" searchcoils for certain White's models. And it helped sell those models. White's had their own reasons for not wanting to make those same searchcoils, and (without saying why), I agree with their reasoning on that. It was not and should not have been a factory searchcoil. ...... I tried to twist their arm to stop thinking of Karbowski as a competitor and start regarding him as an ally. To my amazement, White's wasn't having any. Jimmy Sierra, bless his opinionated and stubborn heart (love the guy, but there were moments it wasn't easy) was a smarter fellow, and behind the scenes did his best to make sure that the things that needed to happen for everyone's benefit did happen.
In general I don't comment on specific aftermarket searchoils for several reasons.
1. I don't know anything about the specific searchcoil in question.
2. If I do know a thing or two about it, and like it, saying that I like it could look like an endorsement of the product, which amounts to an endorsement of the company that makes it. Then if someone buys it and runs into a problem, they blame me for misleading them. It just ain't worth the grief.
3. If I do know a thing or two about it, and don't like it, then I'll be accused of dissing the product because "it's a competitor". Another "It just ain't worth the grief" situation.
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And, on that other subject, time for a fogey reminisce. I really miss working with Jimmy Sierra. One of the smartest people I've ever known, and most of the time kycke-arse fun. And when things had to be nuts-and-bolts serious, he was all business, a very good trait as well. This industry has been remarkably good to me, and working with Jimmy Sierra was a several-years high point. The GMT/MXT platforms Jimmy and I developed about 15 years ago are still among White's biggest sellers.
Sometimes an aftermarket accessory searchcoil is so good that people buy a particular make & model metal detector in part because of the specific aftermarket searchcoils available for it. Back when Karbowski was still alive, he made "bigfoot" and I think "littlefoot" searchcoils for certain White's models. And it helped sell those models. White's had their own reasons for not wanting to make those same searchcoils, and (without saying why), I agree with their reasoning on that. It was not and should not have been a factory searchcoil. ...... I tried to twist their arm to stop thinking of Karbowski as a competitor and start regarding him as an ally. To my amazement, White's wasn't having any. Jimmy Sierra, bless his opinionated and stubborn heart (love the guy, but there were moments it wasn't easy) was a smarter fellow, and behind the scenes did his best to make sure that the things that needed to happen for everyone's benefit did happen.
In general I don't comment on specific aftermarket searchoils for several reasons.
1. I don't know anything about the specific searchcoil in question.
2. If I do know a thing or two about it, and like it, saying that I like it could look like an endorsement of the product, which amounts to an endorsement of the company that makes it. Then if someone buys it and runs into a problem, they blame me for misleading them. It just ain't worth the grief.
3. If I do know a thing or two about it, and don't like it, then I'll be accused of dissing the product because "it's a competitor". Another "It just ain't worth the grief" situation.
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And, on that other subject, time for a fogey reminisce. I really miss working with Jimmy Sierra. One of the smartest people I've ever known, and most of the time kycke-arse fun. And when things had to be nuts-and-bolts serious, he was all business, a very good trait as well. This industry has been remarkably good to me, and working with Jimmy Sierra was a several-years high point. The GMT/MXT platforms Jimmy and I developed about 15 years ago are still among White's biggest sellers.
cheers for clarifying that so nicely dave ,got to agree about jimmy sierra to had the pleasure of joining him on a couple of his tours in norfolk a few years back and had the honour of doing the u.k field tests and treasure hunting magazine write up of the hotshot coil for him. .a real gent to.
p.s fancy sending me a t2 armstrap ,can't get one over here these days LOL
p.s fancy sending me a t2 armstrap ,can't get one over here these days LOL
First Texas is so enthused about these Mars coils that they are relaunching the Classic T2 at a stunningly low price. Guess they figure the new coils will sell a few detectors!
Only kidding about the last part, but look at the "new" T2
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?58,2228153,2228153#msg-2228153
Only kidding about the last part, but look at the "new" T2
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?58,2228153,2228153#msg-2228153
Jackpine Savage
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John
I'm not using the G2 at the moment. if you would like to try the Sniper and compare it to the stock coil I'll send it to you to try out.
Send me a PM
Tom
I'm not using the G2 at the moment. if you would like to try the Sniper and compare it to the stock coil I'll send it to you to try out.
Send me a PM
Tom