Thanks for the replys fellas...Jim, theres a lot of guys here that have been doing this for a while, and more getting into it everyday...I have learned so much from all of them, as well as this forum, the videos posted and all...I'm trying to be faster at getting to the good spots, and thinking creatively about the rest. For instance, there will be six guys sweeping immediately after the local summer fair shuts down, but nobody ever goes and sweeps the little field where the carneys have parked and camped for years, its a no account place that is full of fill, and you'd drive right past it not thinking or seeing much at all...Theres also the little creeks and swales that run right through town and have for hundreds of years that get some pretty heavy kid traffic. There will be a ton of sweepers on the beaches in the summer, but not very many searching the high sands and party spots...there is little to no competition in the dangerous neighborhoods, and that effort is all about timing, and weather conditions...I think target retrieval speed factor is the most important thing I've learned, as well as getting that coil into spots most would not...like tight to the poles in the totlots, and even moreso on the periphery where targets often sit for a while...some of the more obvious spots are swept so clean, you would think your detector was turned off at times. It truly is the study of humans interaction with topography, both the droppers and the finders of things.