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My Gator is bending and cracking this should help, what do you think

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My Gator might look ugly but if this works I will be happy this is my 3rd Gator
Could be from Frozen ground or to much spinach HaHa
HH KEVIN
 
Hi Kevin,
These diggers are notorious for breaking. The blade flexes back and eventually snaps in half. They are made of cheap Chineese steel ...that's probably why Kellyco gives 'em away with their detectors. I broke mine and tried welding it similar to yours. It lasted for a couple of months and broke again. Kellyco offers a lifetime guarantee and will exchange the ones that break. But, after breaking a few, it isn't worth the hassle. IMHO ... spend a few extra bucks and buy a Predator.
Good Hunting!
Dave
 
Seems you need a new tool, try buying a Lesche digging tool, they don't break like those crappy gator knock-off ones, remember, All things cheap turn expensive. So if you went with Minelab's quality try going Lesche.
 
http://www.jimmysierra.com/ Try buying some digging tools there, very high quality, they also have the Lesche digging tool. Try buying also a 14" Trowel and a treasure scoop (made of ABS not metal) if you can.
 
I use the Lesche digger & samson shovel....wouldn't go out without them...excellent quakity tools <IMG SRC="/metal/html/ml.gif" BORDER=0 width=30 height=15 ALT="m~">
 
It does not have the offset handle but the handle is larger and conforms to the hand better. The blade is similar but apparently of better sreel and craftsmenship. I have even broken one in frozen ground due to impatience. I have a Kellyco freebie 'Gator' as a backup. Not sure what the percieved advantage is of the offset blade/handle configuration.
Chuck
 
Indeed Donny like many others do well with Lesche products..Made to last and that red handle is easy to spot if one drops it...
 
both fixes Ive seen are pretty good, and I can back myself up when I say that. I am a mechanical engineer and have been in steel structural design for a few years now. I dont know alot yet, but I know enough.
the problem:
repeated loading is occouring (mostly on the weakest axis of the structure) which is changing the chrystaline structure of the steel; a condition known as cold working. over time, this leads to a condition known as fatigue (small cracks), which eventualy leads to failure (damnit, broke another shovel!).
the solution:
I dont have the formulas handy, but heres the deal;
we need to change one or more of the following the axis being loaded, flexing, type of material being coldworked, ammount of material being coldworked, shape of material being coldworked, frequency of cycles, or number of cycles.
lighter dirt aint gonna happen, not digging is out, just stabbing or slicing the ground woulnt work, morpying to titaniun...no., digging one scoop a month is out, digging 5 holes in one scoop is out. doesnt leave much does it?
One of the definitions of Inertia is a resistance to a bending moment. A bending moment can also be thought of as a flexing force, which is occouring every time you take a scoop of dirt. So, to get less loading,flexing, coldwork, fatigue, and damnit, broke another shovel, you need more Inertia! Inertia is made of two things, Mass or volume, and distance. as mass or volume increases, the increase in inertia is ruffly proportional, but as distance increases (width of the cross section) the increase in inertia is exponential. What you did was actualy a little of both: Well Done Gent's!
Installing a rib by bending or pressing one into the metal might have worked also without changing the ammount of material. The height of the rib and not the number of them would produce the most dramatic results (I noticed that the manufacturer did that right up by where the handle meets the blade, which just happens to be where the highest stress concentration is, but what the hell do they know anyways?)
Anyways, Thanks for the chalenge, and rock on <img src="/metal/html/super.gif" border=0 width=26 height=28 alt=":super">
 
this is made from 1/4 inch plate
it is patterned after a japanese gardening knife
but stronger. the japanese model wants to bend under pressure.
Rick (TN)
 
I found that the only way to contact Predator Tools was not by e-mail but by phone. Would rather talk in person than by e-mail anyway. E-mail is not a very reliable source of communication in my book!!!
HH Gilly in Illinois
 
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