Need Help CZ3D or 70

[Anonymous]

I need some help deciding on which md to get. I have a whites xlt, it's a good md but it's not getting the depth that I need. I heard that the CZ-3D and the CZ-70 will get a dime at 1 foot. I gonna get me a fisher but i'm not sure which. what do you fisher guys think?? by the way I like your forum. you have a lot of participation. Thanks!!

 

[Anonymous]

Try down on CZ forum,there is some good info on that forum.I have a 3D and love it,Thinking of getting the 70,I have the sunray probe and 12 inch coil.The Coinstrike was a choice too.I think the 70 will be the way to go for me.I have found my best coins with the 3D.

 

[Anonymous]

didn't the ads for the xlt say 14 inches on a dime. cz's are deep machines. i used a white's 6000di before i got the cz-5. the cz-5 was deeper.

 

[Anonymous]

How deep a CZ or any machine will detect is dependent on mineralization. You may or may not get that kind of depth. As far as the 70 vs. 3D. It been beat to death in the last year... here two threads I looked up real quick.
http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/forums/cz_classroom/fisher.pl?read=7764
http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/forums/cz_classroom/fisher.pl?index
Both are good machines and will serve you well. The 3D is geared more for old sites with a lack of aluminum trash. Both machines will do good in older sites. The 70 is splashproof where as the 3D is not. The notching on a 70 is geared more for all around performance than like the 3D specialized for a specific kind of site. Read the threads I showed you a feel free to post any questions. You might want to post those questions in the CZ forum at the following link...
http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/forums/cz_classroom/fisher.pl
-Bill

 

[Anonymous]

Indeed all a matter of preference( digital or analog)
as far as depth or stability for all purposes alike.
Am sure your local Fisher dealer could show you both and indeed the issue has been beat to death in previous posts. Your call my friend..

 

[Anonymous]

I have the CZ-3D too, I love it. I've had it for a little over a year. Found a lot, but as far as depth I don't know, the best I've ever got is 7". Did the 12" coil give you that much more depth? $ 220. a lot of $. How did you do with depth with your 8" coil? Thanks a lot. ronboy44

 

[Anonymous]

I appreciate ALL of the great info. Excellent Site!!!

 

[Anonymous]

I have used both extensively. I've hunted areas first with the 70 then the 3D right after to see if I would dig more coins with very little success although the first coin I ever found with the 3D was an 1867 IH that I walked right over many times with the 70 since I wasn't digging all the midtones. It was an area that was extensively excavated with lots of old trash. I still prefer the CZ-70. The CZ-70 has a constant battery monitor, water-resistant as stated, the depth meter and the bounces between icons are much easier to read/see, the 3D is almost too sensitive to shallow items and overloads easier. The 3D also seems to be less stable around power lines like the C$. I trust what my CZ-70 tells me and it hasn't let me down. I recently went to Danville Virginia to hunt at an old plantation that with iron laden red clay soil. The CZ-70 was much more stable and found more coins. It really is your choice but I think the CZ-70 has more all round utility at most sites and is easier overall to use. The 3D is really a specialty machine...some may disagree but we all have our own opinion...HH...Hope this helps <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">

 

[Anonymous]

I can tell you for a fact that here in central Florida, the CZ5, CZ70 nor the Coinstrike will hit a 12" dime. The CZ5 is good for about 9-10" on a quarter at sensativirty 4 in ID mode, the CZ70 will hit a quarter at 12" barely with a faint audible tone. The Coinstrike is about the same as the CZ70 good for about 10-12" tops.
But thats in my area, some may hit those 14-20" dimes, but I aint seen it. I will say this, 12" is just about as deep as I want to dig for a silver coin.
My pick would be for old sites, the 3d, but for coin, jewelry, relic & beach hunting, I would opt for the CZ70pro.
Good luck,
Mike

 

[Anonymous]

other than on the beach no matter what machine it was. Realistically with a CZ on dimes in good ground I agree with Mike, 8-9" and "maybe" 10" max. Believe what ya want but thats my story and I stickin to it.
Machines I have used that will get a dime on a fresh water beach at 10" and beyond are: 1270, Coinstrike, X5 and Minelab Advantage. Yup the CZ is not included in the above and it had more chances than most of the others..
Tom

 

[Anonymous]

It depends on your area...some areas coins don't drop deep and others mineralization prevents super depth. Here in N.E. Pa. coins drop deep and would consider a CZ a 10-12 inch deep machine on a silver dime...Many of our areas a 5-6 inch silver dime is common but many others they do drop to excessive depth and if any unit will get them a CZ will....

 

[Anonymous]

...........I use a CZ 7A Pro and it's not at all uncommon to find dimes in excess of 10" as indicated by my CZ, which is quite accurate. I don't know the exact depth beyond that as measuring with a ruler in sand is subject to inaccuracy due to the fluidity of sand.
Years ago, when XLT users seemed to dominate the dry sand, I used to have no qualms about following them along the highly productive towel line as they were missing nickles, loads of 6-9" dimes and deeper targets.
One day I saw a group of six detectorists from the local club work the line and chose to detect in their footsteps. With Zinc notched out, I found 17 clad dimes in about 45 minutes! The quarters didn't show up until I moved off to the side of the line they were working.
Be it my CZ, the 70 or the 3D, they all should get the same depth and your choice should be dictated by your hunting enviroment. In my case where most of the detecting is mostly on the salt beach with a fair amount of time in the newer park/schools environment, a CZ 70 would be the choice. However, if I were detecting predominately in older areas unpolluted by modern trash, the 3D would be a serious consideration.
Chet

 

[Anonymous]

Chet,
I have used the CZ5 (3 of them) on fresh water beaches and shallow wading...depth on nickels is not there compared to the newer machines. Gave up on the CZ5 for jewelry hunting 3 years ago and don't miss it.
Oh there is one thing good about them for wading, with the big coil and if you can crank up the sens they see way off to the side on fresh drops in the lakes around here. That is a good thing for coverage in swimming areas that are hit hard and often. It amazing the coverage they give in that scenario.
Tom

 

[Anonymous]

But I would have to see it to believe it.
Tom

 

[Anonymous]

I have dug a silver dime at least 10 inches deep at the river bank here using my cz70Pro.
I have more often dug deeper silver with my Advantage in a lot of places around here. the advantage using the dd coil yet has outdone the concentric cz70Pro in a lot of places here. I have both detectors and know from experience. Have delibertley brought over my cz to make the comparisons while just enjoying the hobby in the field .
HH
Dan R.

 

[Anonymous]

Other than I agree! As deep as the CZ's are in my ground here the Advantage also shines on depth. Its not for everyone but it is DEEEP!
Its a good thing Fisher makes the Coinstrike cuz thats what it takes to match the Advantage in my ground. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
Tom

 

[Anonymous]

Not saying the cz is lesser then the Advantage in all situations but an example of the depth difference I refer to.
I had been using the Advantage and dug two pennies at around 8 inches deep and then dug a silver dime at about the same depth.
The next target I hit on that sounded similar I went to my truck and brought over my cz. Swung it over the target while doing every thing possible to get a signal off it . No go.
I dug up the target and it was only another penny but the ground didn't seem that bad ( mineral wise)but I guess enough to cause the difference .
But for some reason my cz is not the only detector that can have the same thing happen.
MY nautilus, and mxt will come second to the advantage also at times.
the coils were the stock 8 on cz and the stock 7-1/4 inch Advantage.
gonna find out soon if the gt sov comes in second at times also. My cz70Pro still does not come in second as far as my liking it so far though as it simply in most cases is tops for me. It still can out do others in situations using the 5 inch coil. I find ir very accurate also.
I guess I just am real partial to my cz70Pro.
HH
Dan R.