need help/ settings for iro infested homesites

[calabash digger]

Well I will be placing my order saturday and hope to be relic hunting monday with a new machine. Ive been watching the videos trying to get the learning curve started.The reactivity kinda throws me a little dont know where to run it on the iron infested homesites I hunt sometimes? What about the discrimination around 2 or 3? could somebody please share their settings for iron infested sites.

 

[martygene]

i sometimes run disc at 0 in iron infested sites and reactivity at 3.... sometimes i lower the tx power to 2 as well. i like to hear all the iron sounds and, for me at least, i hear the higher tones better and I think quicker right next to iron. i have the iron volume at 2 or 1 so it's not too loud but still there. once i move away from the heavy iron i might lower reactivity to 2 and if it gets quiet i raise the TX to 3. for my soil i can have sens at 90 but i try to go higher til it gets chattery and then lower it. give these a try and see how it works for you. i almost always run in 12KHz.
GL &HH

 

[Lodge Scent]

Works for me:

Discrim: 0 to 2
Full Tones
Sensitivity = 86
TX = 1
Frequency = 8
Iron Volume NA
Reactivity = 3
Silencer = 1
Audio = 4

 

[calabash digger]

Ive run my at pro with zero discrim I like to hear the iron too it suits my hunting style. How much depth get affected when you raise the reactivity? thanks for the settings guys. I cant wait!

 

[martygene]

you do lose depth with higher reactivity.. how much i haven't tested but i can tell it does. that's why i lower it as soon as i get out of heavy iron/trash. the trade off is that if you try to get depth in heavy iron you won't be able to get between it.

 

[calabash digger]

I just know there is good stuff in between that iron and cant wait to find it. Wait I can hear something calling my name its a confederate button just begging to be found! lol

 

[martygene]

i know what you mean.... sometimes i can SMELL silver... lol

 

[calabash digger]

My wife had pity on me and said I could use some house money till my paypal money cleared so I will be ordering today I wonder if they offer 3 hour shipping cant wait!

 

[calabash digger]

i sometimes run disc at 0 in iron infested sites and reactivity at 3.... sometimes i lower the tx power to 2 as well. i like to hear all the iron sounds and, for me at least, i hear the higher tones better and I think quicker right next to iron. i have the iron volume at 2 or 1 so it's not too loud but still there. once i move away from the heavy iron i might lower reactivity to 2 and if it gets quiet i raise the TX to 3. for my soil i can have sens at 90 but i try to go higher til it gets chattery and then lower it. give these a try and see how it works for you. i almost always run in 12KHz.
GL &HH

Is that in 3 tone?

 

[martygene]

i always run in full tones... it takes some getting used to but i like it best.

i sometimes run disc at 0 in iron infested sites and reactivity at 3.... sometimes i lower the tx power to 2 as well. i like to hear all the iron sounds and, for me at least, i hear the higher tones better and I think quicker right next to iron. i have the iron volume at 2 or 1 so it's not too loud but still there. once i move away from the heavy iron i might lower reactivity to 2 and if it gets quiet i raise the TX to 3. for my soil i can have sens at 90 but i try to go higher til it gets chattery and then lower it. give these a try and see how it works for you. i almost always run in 12KHz.
GL &HH

Is that in 3 tone?

 

[martygene]

here's hoping they are fast to ship and use UPS... if you're lucky you might get it by saturday... fingers crossed for ya...keep us posted

 

[calabash digger]

I will have to learn what full tones is sounds like a foreign language right now. just paid for it! 2.40 I hope that gives them time to ship today .

 

[calabash digger]

i sometimes run disc at 0 in iron infested sites and reactivity at 3.... sometimes i lower the tx power to 2 as well. i like to hear all the iron sounds and, for me at least, i hear the higher tones better and I think quicker right next to iron. i have the iron volume at 2 or 1 so it's not too loud but still there. once i move away from the heavy iron i might lower reactivity to 2 and if it gets quiet i raise the TX to 3. for my soil i can have sens at 90 but i try to go higher til it gets chattery and then lower it. give these a try and see how it works for you. i almost always run in 12KHz.
GL &HH

Do you start out with factory preset deus fast and change from there or do go to empty slot and make program?

 

[martygene]

I started with andy sabischs deep coin program from his book. If you don't have that I would highly recommend it . If you want my settings I can give those to you as well. I made a program just like it only in 4khz and saved right next to the 12khz program so I can check on some signals. For example: in 12k a rusted bottle cap comes in around 94.... the same as a quarter. So I hit the plus button to go to the 4k program. If the tdi stays the same it's a bottle cap but if the tdi lowers it's a good signal to dig. Just remember to switch back to 12k before you start searching again.

 

[calabash digger]

please do I wil have to get the book but I got to wait till my money clears in paypal or I will be single. lol

 

[beepsilver]

This is a good video revealing the effects of discrimination over iron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl_snuZPQ94&index=7&list=PLfOmenSOmoc3UCOhyKMrPjd_0FIKJq1yN

 

[martygene]

Here are the settings that i would use in heavy iron/trash and then modify as conditions warrant...

Disc 0
Full Tones
Sens 90 or try higher if you can
TX 2
Iron vol 1 or 2
Reac 3
Silencer 0
audio response 4 ( for me as i have hearing loss)
notch 98-99
Ground Balance Tracking as you will never get a good GB in heavy iron


Once i move away from the real heavy stuff i drop reac to 2 and maybe raise tx to 3
remember that once you change react you have to go into expert and change silencer back to 0 . I am hoping that is one fix coming with version 4 or the software update coming sometime this year.

did you get tracking info yet? when is it coming?

 

[markg]

If you are hunting iron infested old home sites many factors come into play.
Coil size is critical with other settings.
Please keep in mind if you're only hunting that text book audio and ID numbers in this type of environment you'll miss out on some might good finds.

If you only have the stock 11" coil these settings will be very important.
Remember depth in heavy iron is impossible, so you are listening for good targets between the iron audio.

Low discrimination is fine, but you need to hear the iron so an iron audio volume of 1-2 should be enough.
Sensitivity can be set to as low as 50 and you'll still get good depth. Increasing sensitivity to high levels in this environment will increase false signals.
Reactivity of 3 and silencer of 0-1 will be sufficient. At this setting if you get a lot of false audio reports increase silencer to 2-3.
Do a manual ground balance because at times the tracking mode can adjust the ground balance in the wrong direction (especially if you hover over a target over 3-4 sweeps) and some targets will become un-detectable.
As for the full tones feature that is fine but keep in mind you are relic hunting and should recover all non-ferrous targets. I imagine tones is your preference.
Listen for a non-ferrous audio and rotate around the target and listen to the audio.
Good example of this below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciZE8Ouk_to

 

[Gary-B]

My Deus V3.2 using 9" coil settings for heavy iron, load up Deus fast program 3 and change

Disc 0
Full Tones
Sens 86
TX 1
Iron vol 0
Reac 3
Silencer -1
Audio response 4
Ground Balance manual 88 - 90 do not use tracking in heavy iron

Name and save as Sifter program

 

[squirrel1]

My Deus V3.2 using 9" coil settings for heavy iron, load up Deus fast program 3 and change

Disc 0
Full Tones
Sens 86
TX 1
Iron vol 0
Reac 3
Silencer -1
Audio response 4
Ground Balance manual 88 - 90 do not use tracking in heavy iron

Name and save as Sifter program

Yep these settings will do.

A couple things need to be mentioned though.

In heavy iron sites,.. One with the settings above,,, nonferrous targets will have a few different ways they can sound.

You will have the nice clean hits,,, with a good Vdi reading.

You will have just a little stutter in the tone,,, the target will sound out of place tone wise in comparison to the nails/ iron bits--- Meter TID can read OO-06 on a lot of these.

Then there is the target that is fuller tone wise sounding .. Not high or low-- sort of caught in the middle,,, many times meter readings of 07-08 will be noticed.

For beginners with Deus using the settings above in sites riddled with iron and nails---- I recommend they sweep 2 complete back and forth sweeps before advancing their coil sweep over the ground,,,, again listening for that little something sound wise that sounds of of place/ sequence

Deus will play music in these type sites,,, all one has to do is learn what tune it is playing when the coil comes over the nonferrous.

Some nonferrous hits--- definitely not textbook, more obscure sounding.

And these more obscure sounding,,, the ole Deus is being challenged,, it is indeed fighting its way with its great technology and performance to give an operator what they are indeed after.

When hunting in these sites--- better to err on the side of caution-- when in doubt dig it out,,, and using a pinpointer can be very painstaking here,, your nonferrous prize many times will be capsulated in many bits of iron and or nails.