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need some advice on incoming surfmaster dual field

dabeach

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i have this baby coming in the mail. the advice i need are how do you weigh the coil down for water detecting anybody have any good ideas . other question i have is what straight shaft should i get or is a straight shaft needed. i have the excal straight shaft maybe that will fit. any help would be greatly appreciated. happy labor day weekend to all and their families.
 
I find the coil to be just about neutral, not much effort to hold down in 3 feet or so of water.
 
You need to read this book, by Clive.
http://www.com/cliveclynick@rogers.com/clivesgoldpagepulsepower.html

This is the only straight shaft I'm aware of for that unit.
http://www.andersondetectorshafts.com/14.html
Send Anderson an e-mail, they have been very helpful for me, in the past. They will let you know what you need there. Best of luck out there mate!
 
I hear so many complain about the coil floating up... I have been using the DF for over a year in the water and I don't have that problem... if the coil bolt is tight it doesn't flop around and what does it take my thumb pressure on the S part of the shaft to keep it along the bottom...
 
thanks all for the replies thats good to know i may not need to weigh coil down , i did order the white s bracket tp keep coil tight so hoping this works out. and i did order pulse power along with detector now if it would just arrive ty jim
 
I could have used the coil stabilizer but I don't need it and Clives book you will enjoy for sure...
 
Craig-PI said:
I hear so many complain about the coil floating up... I have been using the DF for over a year in the water and I don't have that problem... if the coil bolt is tight it doesn't flop around and what does it take my thumb pressure on the S part of the shaft to keep it along the bottom...

Craig the coil floated up on mine too. I bought it new and of course fine on wet sand but in the water waist deep and over I didnt care for it. Its not neutral like some guys say and your right about keeping your thumb over the S part of the shaft but sometimes you gotta use two hands on the scoop. The quality and depth are there in the machine no doubt, but I wouldnt touch another one unless they did something about the coil.

Neil
 
Neil... I agree the coil does not have neutral buoyancy but that is not going to stop me from using this machine as depth is the name of the game when so many are detecting for the same stuff I am :) Whites probably knew it would weigh alot more than the 950 coil did and chose lighter over weighted... who knows knows what they were thinking lol...
 
hmmm i intend to use the df just wondering if anybody has found a good way to weigh the coil to make it easier to keep on the bottom. here on the gulf we get currents that run along the beach which causes small rips so im thinking a little weight on the coil would be ideal but really wont know until the baby arrives tommorow )
 
Somebody recently posted an idea with photos using some clear tubing cut to the diameter of the inner loop of the coil, filling it with water and securing it to the loop with wire ties. Looks like a pretty good idea but I wonder if mixing some cement and filling the tubing with that might work better. Not sure how much weight that would be but heavier than tap water which btw is lighter than seawater. Maybe worth a try.

Jerry
 
thinkin2 said:
Somebody recently posted an idea with photos using some clear tubing cut to the diameter of the inner loop of the coil, filling it with water and securing it to the loop with wire ties. Looks like a pretty good idea but I wonder if mixing some cement and filling the tubing with that might work better. Not sure how much weight that would be but heavier than tap water which btw is lighter than seawater. Maybe worth a try.

Jerry

Nice idea but it won't work
water in water doesn't help with the weighing down the coil, only makes it heavier out of the water the only added wieght in the water would be the plastic bits, although it could be filled with sand,salt or something of that nature
 
kered said:
thinkin2 said:
Somebody recently posted an idea with photos using some clear tubing cut to the diameter of the inner loop of the coil, filling it with water and securing it to the loop with wire ties. Looks like a pretty good idea but I wonder if mixing some cement and filling the tubing with that might work better. Not sure how much weight that would be but heavier than tap water which btw is lighter than seawater. Maybe worth a try.

Jerry

Nice idea but it won't work
water in water doesn't help with the weighing down the coil, only makes it heavier out of the water the only added wieght in the water would be the plastic bits, although it could be filled with sand,salt or something of that nature

I don't think you read my post right. My suggestion was to use his idea but to replace the water with cement. Could probably go to Lowes or Home Depot or somewhere and get the quick mix stuff. That should be heavy enough.

Jerry
 
if you choose to do so, make sure its somthing flat that can lay against the coil or perhaps something roundish that can be connected to your lower rod at the bottom, either way you dont want to add something thats gonna cause more resistance swinging it in the water, its hard enough as it is.

maybe even fill your lower rod with sand? something along that nature.

HH
Neil
 
I bought a piece of tubing enough to line the outsid of the coil went to the beach filled it with beach sand bought a gose connector put the tubing together ty wraped to the coil works fine.
 
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