notching out and depth

[sequimsalty]

Hi all,

i just have a simple question. it seems as if z-lincolns always come in at 74-76. I can think of very little that i would lose by notching that out. I dig everything else including pulltabs to make sure i get the rings. i know i could just look at the id and ignore it but i wonder if i would lose any depth or is there any reason not to notch if i want to ignore everything in the 74-76 range.

thanks,
doug in sequim, wa

 

[jim tn]

Personally I am not a notcher, but about what you might loose buy notching out z-lincolns is heavier gold. My last gold 10k class ring of a week or so ago was right on the edge of Lincoln cents. HH jim tn

 

[lrsjr]

Some Indian head pennies and also some very early Lincoln cents fall into the zinc range.

 

[sequimsalty]

thanks guys,
It sounds like i am going to need to keep digging the zincs. Thanks for the info.

doug in sequim

 

[ajaj]

Why notch out when one could ignore?

aj

 

[sequimsalty]

hey aj.. that makes sense but in reality i really struggle to not dig when i hear a good tone, even if the id indicates that it is probably a zinc penny. . last time out i dug 30 zinc pennies and i was just thinking that if they were nulled out i would have been able to cover more area. i do think that i will try to just discipline myself when i am say on a playground that is only 25 years old to just ignore those signals. at older sites i will probably succumb to digging everything but iron. thanks for the input.

doug in sequim

 

[BensJamming]

Not too mention alot of really cool tokens seem to ring up as zinc as well. See alot of neat finds from people digging those zincs!

 

[grumpysrb]

Just ignore them. I ignore them, unless there aren't any other targets. I don't know why older copper pennies would read as zincolns.

 

[ajaj]

hey aj.. that makes sense but in reality i really struggle to not dig when i hear a good tone, even if the id indicates that it is probably a zinc penny. ..

doug in sequim

Yes, it does take some discipline. There are so many reasons (large gold rings, tokens, IH pennies, nearby other targets, etc.) not to notch out. I hunt very, very trashy urban parks (i.e., targets just about every couple of inches or so) in Pro mode with nothing notched out, Fe discrimination at 26, and Fe audio ON. Why? I like to hear the whole "picture" or sound spectrum. Any notching and sounds can get choppy and annoying (some will say that hearing so many sounds can be annoying). I have dug IHs that were 7" deep adjacent to bits of Al and nails. I would only hear the tiniest blip in the low 70s at one or two angles with all sorts of numbers at different angles - the entire sound spectrum at all angles prompted me to dig. And no, in these parks, one does not "dig everything"! It would take hours to travel 30 feet.

It takes many hours on any machine to "get it". I highly advise everyone to spend a lot of time in trashy areas. Ya learn quick.

aj

 

[Eric in RI]

I always dig them, especially since Indians and early wheats fall in those numbers. Besides, you should dig the shallow zincolns, they could mask deeper targets under them... Just my opinion. HH!

 

[Steve Keppel]

I have found two gold plated rings at 76, but their sounds were just different enough to cause me to dig

 

[William-NM]

I'm with AJ. Sometimes, the most valuable resources I have are my time & energy. So, in trashy parks, I occasionally skip the 75/76 Zinx but dig the 79/80 Coppers. Or, dig the first 20, just to start cleaning up the site. It's a trade off, but by not digging 100 of the evil discs, I can check lots of other targets. I don't disc 'em out, just force myself to resist those excellent sounding 'siren song' temptations. Most of my hunts are old home sites and I dig it all except for some small iron out there. I also think that high quality 'phones help with discrimination. I say, hunt in whatever way seems most joyful to you!

 

[1950cupajo]

hey aj.. that makes sense but in reality i really struggle to not dig when i hear a good tone, even if the id indicates that it is probably a zinc penny. ..

doug in sequim

Yes, it does take some discipline. There are so many reasons (large gold rings, tokens, IH pennies, nearby other targets, etc.) not to notch out. I hunt very, very trashy urban parks (i.e., targets just about every couple of inches or so) in Pro mode with nothing notched out, Fe discrimination at 26, and Fe audio ON. Why? I like to hear the whole "picture" or sound spectrum. Any notching and sounds can get choppy and annoying (some will say that hearing so many sounds can be annoying). I have dug IHs that were 7" deep adjacent to bits of Al and nails. I would only hear the tiniest blip in the low 70s at one or two angles with all sorts of numbers at different angles - the entire sound spectrum at all angles prompted me to dig. And no, in these parks, one does not "dig everything"! It would take hours to travel 30 feet.

It takes many hours on any machine to "get it". I highly advise everyone to spend a lot of time in trashy areas. Ya learn quick.

aj

I agree with you, I want to dig everything until I get use to what my detector is saying, but my hope is that some day I will be able to pass on some stuff.(the JUNK) I will always gig the Crap pennies, I want to at least not dig the junk as much as possible. The reason I wanted to put my two cents in here is, I watched a youtube video the other day, and this young man had a crap load of junk that he had dug, and he showed it in his video. He said the only reason he was digging all the trash is he knew that he would find more gold rings.

I understand that is what we all want, but Garrett has put together more then a few winning detectors in his day and I always thought it you have the right tools the job simply becomes allot easy er than it used to be.

I love the Parks because they are the training grounds of those who know how to learn from them

 

[Beale]

You may also loose some Silver Rings? I have had Zinc's hit 80? You begin to notch and where do you stop? Beale.

 

[togamac]

I started notching out Zincolns last year and haven't looked back. My detecting time is limited by demands at home and my age I just don't want to be spending my precious time digging Zincolns. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
The result is that my clad collection that I'm saving in a little treasure chest for my grandchildren now looks shinier with all the dimes and quarters. Have I missed something? Probably, but hey, pigs go to slaughter. Don't get greedy and try to clean out a site completely! SO WHAT IF YOU LEAVE SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT GUY!

 

[Waterdog]

Some of us like the Indian Head Pennies, and will stick around digging them up. While others pass them by not knowing what lays beneath them. I know all to much about the saying "Target masking" and how one little tiny staple can mask something just inches below. The choice is yours ever time you turn on your machine. I like to hunt in the mess of Bottle cap city with the smaller coils, where not many dare to venture into. Someday I will have a story of my finds where no one else wanted to go. Digging thru the trash only to find what others had passed.

 

[fongu]

When I'm in the water with my scoop, I dig anything that sounds like a good target, even a zinc penny. On land, where I struggle more with my old body, I sometimes get lazy and pass them up. Didn't those old canning lids contain zinc in them? Hate to get lazy and pass up a small canning jar full of coins. I'm really more tired and in pain than lazy, but aches and pains make me lazy. lol

 

[1950cupajo]

aj,

I think digging them all is the best approach. I would re read the owner manual especially the discrimination portion.
When you know your metal detector well enough to skip good targets, you will notice that those zinc's will give you a slightly
different sound, "Not all the time, but a good part of the time"