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Been playing with the GT a little, and can't see a hill of beans difference between it and my 2a in disc mode.
Been playing around iron and noise.
Dirt is moist clay with noticeable iron content.
Went out this morning to a field that was plowed last fall, and several hundred yards from power lines.
Buried a copper penny to six inches and gave the dirt a good stomp. Of course the dirt is very uneven in a place like this. Too much sensitivity will null.
Tried the coil bobbing method for sensitivity setting. Turned up at about 12o'clock . Also tried higher at 11 o'clock with better results, but a bit more occaisonal nulling in the area.
The penny would hit with a perfect reading with the coil anywhere near the ground. Could lift the coil to about 6" before losing it. Increasing the sensitivity above 11 o'clock started cutting depth and started nulling after the coil passed over the coin.
All metal mode was not as sensitive as disc mode, with hits being much weaker in both track and fixed. Pinpoint was stronger than the other all metal modes, but still not up to disc mode.
Tests were done in both bandswitch positions with no significant difference.
A note........when switching bands, wait a few moments for the GT to stabilize.
Playing around in the iron....lots of nails and other junk....the GT responded so close to what my 2a does that there was not any real problem identifying the iron when it either falsed or wanted to give a constant positive hit.
That's it for now.
HH
 
I found the same thing with the all metal mode as the signals didnt seem as strong, but figured I never used it before on any of my other Soveregins other than to pinpoint that maybe there was a differnt way than i was using.
What does sound differnt is my disc mode. I seem to pick up iron more with the GT than any of the other Sovereigns I have used. Picking up the iron is no real problem once you know how to handle it, but many of them sounds like some of the deeper coin hits I would get with my other Sovereigns. These are the ones where you hear the tone change to the higher tone of a good target and once you do the wiggle over them they seem to lock right on to 180 on the meter and the tones are nice and steady too. The thing that will tell them is going to pinpoint and pinpoint doing the 90 degrees pinpointing so the target is right under the center of the coil then switch back to disc and wiggle the coil a little. If it is a good target it seem the threshold will start to climb or stay the same, but if it nulls than it is a iron false. I used to get a few of these with my other Sovereigns too, but not as often as the GT. I find turning the sensitivity lower will cause it to be not so often and also in auto I notice it, but too not very often at all.
I hope that the GT with the freq switch has helped you to work those areas where you were getting all the interference, so you can get some of those you missed before.
I am more curious now than before of others that have used the Sovereign before and now got a GT that uses the disc mode as there main way of hunting to see what they think, maybe I have something diffenrt here up here in ND, but like I say I know how to handle what it is doing compared to the other Sovereigns.
Good luck Art and I hope you can get out more to use it and see if you notice anything else.
Rick
 
The iron hits in the nail patch went like this........
There were the ones that were either low and just wallowed around, or the ones that started to come up high and ubruptly cut off to a null. Some would come up quick, but drop out after 3-4 passes. Depends on ground conditions as to how the iron is going to behave. Seems unpredictable.
Was too lazy to take the 2a along and keep switching coils. Don't have two identical coils out of the four.
Noise was still a problem, with very little help in band 1.
Also noticed that both square tabs and nickels run a little high in band 1.
Something to watch out for when rejecting tabs by particular readings if you change bands.
Also, this detector is prone to hitting low or high on the first pass after a different reading target.
Say the last target was a clad hit. If the next target is lower, thenit will read higher than it's supposed to on the first pass.
If the last hit was below clad, then a higher hit will read lower than it should until the next pass.
Soooooo.........
If you get a hit that is close to being right, but sounds a little off, then make another pass to see what turns up.
Hope you understood that.
HH
 
Hey art, get a bit closer to them powerlines eh? I'm really curious about how well the band switch does.
 
My GT seems to pick up smaller things, like a lead BB. In my friend's test spot,the GT hit's his coins better than my Elite or XS did. Also I hunt with a friend that use's a CZ,I hunt in Band 2. But when we get to close, I have to switch to band 1. to get the GT to settle down, never had that happen before. I can not tell that the iron mask switch does anything. HH...BJ
 
Not helping much in the noise I been getting into. May simply be too intense. Seems to get into the iron and swamp out the Sov.
Just have to run sensitivity low enough to keep the threshold most of the time.
Can work pretty close to some lines, while others are bad from quite a distance. Sometimes can work right under high tension toweres without much trouble, but can't get within 50 yards of a single line.
Go figure.
HH
 
Have not compared the detectors on the same targets. Too lazy to swap coils around.
Not worried about the tiny trash targets......don't want to pick them up anyway.
Biggest problem is finding something other than iron junk that is deep enough to do a good comparison.
Hate stageing a test because it's not really representative of real hunting.
I did check the GT out on a nail or some other small weak iron target that I did not dig.
Lifted the coil until it quit nulling, then switched to all metal and lifted until it got too weak to pull out of the threshold.
Disc mode won hands down.
HH
 
HI BJ,
Good to hear you got a GT also and had a chance to use it. There is a difference I feel turning off the iron mask as you will see. Next time you get a coin next to iron with it on as i feel you will be able to tell the iron beside it, now turn off the iron mask and you may not hear the coin or not as well. I switched back and forth several times and see the coins close to iron will sound better with the iron mask on, but i also see with it on I get more of the false signals too. This is one thing I forgot to mention is when I turn off the iron mask I seem to get less false signals off of iron.
Rick
 
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