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November finds

Hi All,
Thought I'd post a pic of my favorite finds for this month thus far. I'm also hoping for an ID on a button in the pic. It has a picture of a bee or wasp, and the words around the perimeter says, "Young Worker's Patriotic Guild". Can anyone help? Much appreciated! (I'll Be heading down to the beach next week for five gloriuos days of detecting, and some fishing. Cant't wait!!!)
Cheers Angela;)
 
Hi Beachguy,
Will do, and I hope I find more than a pocket full of sinkers, but the sinkers might come in handy anyway. Got a destination in mind where some good storms have hit, and uncovered a layer of blackish sand. Got to beat the locals at it!!
Cheers Angela ;):beers:
 
Hi Angela
Were these finds found around that beautiful area you live in?
You seem to be lucky with the quattro and what you find. Im still trying to decipher the sounds and all the different icons etc. A little bit mind blowing. Could you please tell me any little secrets you use to make your finds easier. Just between the two of us!
Cheers! Gary.
 
Hello Angela.
I cant help with the button but I know what the thing is in the upper right is.
It sure looks like the hinge from a folding ruler[attachment 13205 5950_jpg
 
Hi Gary,
Thanks for your reply! I found the Nov finds around where I live. When I first began using the Quattro, I tended to use the coin/jewelry mode with some discrimination. I dug up everything I thought was a 'good' signal, till I got a good idea of what not to dig, dependant on the area I was detecting. I also found that I was often iron masking over good signals, so by switching from the 10.5" to the 7.5" coil, and slowing down the coil swing, it helped. But I was still iron masking sometimes, and felt that I was missing a lot of good targets, and I had some 'bouncing' sounds to contend with. With some advice from other Quattro users, on this forum and the Aussie Treasure Hunters forum, I began to use All Metal Mode with no discrimination. At first, it took a little getting used to. The constant noise in the earphones (because of trashy ground), made it difficult to detect for no more than an hour at a time (had to give my ears a rest, and I also found that my initial success was depended to some degree on the mood I was in.
Months later, I developed my own method of finding relics (mind you, I only started to find the really old coins about 8 weeks ago). So now Gary, this is the method I find works extremely well where I am: I always use All Metal Mode with no distrmination. I rely almost totally on just the signals I hear to determine if it's a good target. Sometimes in this mode I may not get a possitive reading, but the signal I hear tells me it's definitely a relic. So to verify that it is, I then switch to a saved All Metal Mode with -10 to +6 and +40 discriminated against. I discriminate +40 to stop the bouncing. Old buttons and similar sized relics that firstly gave a negative number reading (but good signal), will now read a positive number reading of, for example, +9 or +10. I don't fully understand why this happens, but it has been explained to me: 'digital readings are used to indicate ferrous content and conductivity of targets. Negative numbers represent ferrous such as iron, while positive numbers represents nonferrous targets. But the system is not perfect, so targets in the soil that are nonferrous like your precious metals will sometimes be detected as ferrous so have a negative reading but most of the time are only slightly negative such as from -6 to +40.'
It's a bit of an enigma for me, so if anyone has a futher explanation, I'd appreciate the imput! But, in all cases, this works for me! I try to use as high a sensitivity as I can without falsing or bouncing, even if I can only go 10 to 14. I'm not worried about losing out on deeper targets. Some of the coins I've found were 8" to 10" deep, and one was on it's edge! Another in a hole full of rusty nails! But it's all about listening carefully to the signals, sweeping your coil slowly, sometimes really slow, especially in very trashy ground like here, as the computer is a bit slow to re-set itself. I hope I haven't waffled to much here Gary. Hope I've helped!
Cheers Angela:cheers::)
 
Thanks Angela
I would be lost if it wasn't for you!!
I will heed your advice and try what you suggested. I think im swinging my detector too fast and maybe confusing it? (trying to cover as much ground as possible to dig lots of finds). Maybe i should slow down and cover the ground i'm searching more thouroughly.
I was at the stage last week when i nearly threw it over a cliff with confusion. Its not as easy to use as my old whites coinmaster 6000d.
Just the fact that there are so many sounds. Pinpointing is so hard to do i have trouble trying to find the target. When i find a target i get the sound which reads 35 on the meter, when i go back to find it it's gone! and i can't locate it again no matter how hard i try to find it. once again thanks for your help!.
 
Hi Gary,
I was just thinking about what you said regarding losing a target once you've gotten a reading, then not finding it again. I don't know what sort of setting you're using, but here might be food for thought. When you get a signal, lift your coil up to allow the computer to reset itself, then lower the coil over where you believe the target. If you get a signal still, you have a target. If not, sweep your coil again over the area to locate it. If you get the signal again lift your coil again and repeat check the spot. Once you've established that there is a definite signal, you can pinpoint it using your mind's eye, if you know what I mean. And the hot spot on you coil is the middle bar that runs the length on your DD coil. It takes a bit of practice, but you'll soon get the hang of it. Also keep in mind that when you dig, then lose the signal, you may have shifted the target and therefore changed it's position. Don't walk away from it. It's still there. If it's a coin on it's end, it'll make it hard to detect. Just work the hole carefully, taking out handfulls of dirt and swiping it over the coil. If you still get nothing widen the perimeter of the hole and sweep your coil over it. A bit more soil movement should shift the target so you get the signal back. I've found a few coins this way after initially losing the signal as you described. Once again it just takes practice. Hope I've helped!
Cheers Angela
 
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