O8K yields 1891 V Nickel

[Smooth23]

Out last night briefly at a moderately trashy and very hard hit spot. The only coin besides a clad quarter I dug up with a 1891 V nickel at about 6 inches. D4 tones, disc "1" ground 53(balanced was more at 60 but was quieter at 53), sensitivity 95(some EMI)

Also interesting to note, I've been hunting with a far more experienced hunter a lot recently, who uses a White's XLT. I've dug at least 2 wheats and a aluminum milk token in spots that he had just went over. He's getting quite jealous.

 

[Monte]

I really enjoy finding trade tokens and all coins that are older. The XLT is a very good detector, but as you're showing him, the Omega 8000 is one to be reckoned with.

Keep working that old park site.

Monte

 

[Elton]

The T products line far exceeds the Older Whites detectors abilities in my opinion. All new platforms, and added depth abilities yet still single frequency..
IN all fairness though the XLT has been out since 1995........that's 15 years old tech..it still finds good targets just not at the same depth as Teknetics.
products The only added thing I would like to see on a Tek model is ground tracking..I, in my heart think this would eliminate some of the chatter. I like the tracking..some don't but in my soil it makes a nice difference.

The only first Texas machine that had track was and is the Coinstrike..and darn it worked perfect.. Always stable once set up right..SO they have the means. Now if they would just find the ways to add it.. A T2 with tracking, and boost modes .........THAT WOULD BE GREAT !!

 

[Monte]

Prior to the release of the XLT from White's I had used several models for various applications, mostly the 5900 Di Pro SL. I mention this because I hadn't been too impressed with the then-current "auto-tracking" models and the 5900 Di Pro Sl was a manual Ground Balance model which I prefer.

I quickly traded my 5900 Di Pro SL for an XLT when they were released in early '94 and spent plenty of time through the years (and personally owning 21 XLT's thru this past spring) in order to learn the strengths and weaknesses of it. One of the 'weaknesses" I found was the Auto-Trac circuitry. Why? because it didn't work FOR ME in the many applications I had, to include iron infested sites and rapidly changing ground. What I didn't like was that it was/is difficult to get a good functional GB at all sites with the GB steps required; the tracking circuitry worked too slow for me, regardless of what adjustments were present; auto-tracking tends to track out or off when hitting a lot of iron; the tracking was too slow to keep up with a lot of ground changes; "hot' or "cold" rocks could cause a problem. In addition to that, I learned that while the detector was 'busy' reading and tracking I actually lost target detection or responsiveness. My pick? Turn GEB tracking 'OFF'!

A better detector came along with the release of their MXT. The MXT, a Dave Johnson design, took care of several tasks I had wished for, such as a very fast automated GB; very fast auto-tracking; a Ground Phase read-out in the Prospecting mode; and best was the 'Lock' toggle so that I could get a good functional GB at a site then 'Lock' and hold that GB setting. In addition, the Ground Phase could/can easily be updated by toggling back to Ground because it was always reading the ground but not updating. In addition, it provided quick-response/fast-recovery performance. It was, and still is, a very good detector. It's been one of my favorites for several years.

The T products line far exceeds the Older Whites detectors abilities in my opinion. All new platforms, and added depth abilities yet still single frequency.. IN all fairness though the XLT has been out since 1995........that's 15 years old tech..it still finds good targets just not at the same depth as Teknetics products.

I've commented above but will add support to your comment about depth of detection. With the White's line I found the XLT very good for "cruising" purposes, mainly for surface to mid-depth coins and such. Their XL Pro, using the same coil as the XLT, generally out-performed it almost everywhere for depth of detection. Hunting the very same parks and schools and other sites that I have worked with XLT's through the years, I find all of the Teknetics models to provide equal or better depth and performance. Usually better, and I am including the Delta, Gamma, Omega and T2 in that line-up.

The only added thing I would like to see on a Tek model is ground tracking..I, in my heart think this would eliminate some of the chatter. I like the tracking..some don't but in my soil it makes a nice difference.

I commented above about my experiences with auto-tracking circuitry, and I go beyond the XLT, too. The T2 and Omega and Gamma are all "tracking" the ground, similar to the MXT and if a detectorist feels a need or desire to 'update' the Ground Phase setting, simply flip the toggle or press a touch pad or button. If you want a spot-on GB, just bob the coil 3-4 times. Done! No issues with off-tracking due to iron junk or hot rocks or other ground challenges a site might offer.

A T2 with tracking, and boost modes .........THAT WOULD BE GREAT !!

If it were my pick, while a decent back-light would be nice, I'd be just fine if they would leave the T2 pretty much like it is except revise or improve the coin-related Target ID so that it would lock-on better and deeper like the Delta, Gamma or Omega. Depth of a T2 is fine and I only get negative comments from coin hunters about the weak TID in our area compared to the other models.

Monte

 

[Elton]

Partial quote from Monte...............(.I commented above about my experiences with auto-tracking circuitry, and I go beyond the XLT, too. The T2 and Omega and Gamma are all "tracking" the ground, similar to the MXT)

Wow you told me something I did not know about one of my units I use. T2.. I had no idea it tracked the ground. I thought it had spot on Toggle fast grab GB, and worked best if you GB'd often.. ..I thought it was a manual GB only.. No tracking... Yes Sir you are correct the Teks go deep and the T2 is plenty deep..
So knowing they track ( Thanks to You)..why couldn't Tek put a switch on face to Instant GB and show tracking Numbers all the time???. Like Whites did the MXT Pro.( Button only) Thanks Monte..I just reviewed my Manual and there isn't one mention by FT/ Tek the machines Track..Just that they Fast Grab the present ground conditions and reset to that particular point your over....Is that what FEo phase is Monte..The tracking of ground ??.If so then it's there and the switch (Toggle forward Bob it) is just fine.. May explain why it works so well in my soil.. Appreciate your comments and wisdom as always Fine Sir..You would think First Texas would advertise their machines track the ground for dummies like me who didn't understand that, or know it.

 

[Monte]

Partial quote from Monte...............(.I commented above about my experiences with auto-tracking circuitry, and I go beyond the XLT, too. The T2 and Omega and Gamma are all "tracking" the ground, similar to the MXT)

Elton, it's 4:32 AM and raining like the dickens as I start this, and I am a slow typist. When it quits I'll verify what I said about the T2 as I don't have my sample rocks here in the den and the wet ground it outside getting wetter.

Wow you told me something I did not know about one of my units I use. T2.. I had no idea it tracked the ground. I thought it had spot on Toggle fast grab GB, and worked best if you GB'd often.. ..I thought it was a manual GB only.. No tracking...

With the T2 and the Omega and the Gamma, you have two options: Fast Grab/Ground Grab (same thing, different name), or Manual Ground Cancel.

Fast Grab on the T2 or Ground Grab on the Omega & Gamma are an automated method. In short, YOU do not adjust the Ground Cancel manually, but the detector's circuitry will read the ground and adjust as necessary as you bob the coil. Translated, that means the detector will "track" or "auto-track" or analyze the ground mineral condition for the soil you're bobbing the coil over.

If you find a clean spot of ground and bob the coil, briskly, from about 6" down to

 

[Elton]

I printed your entire explanation for my own reference and I really want to say "THANK YOU"..I do so appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share with all of us........ I have several other detectors and Sir, I do enjoy my First Texas Machines the most.. Overall.. ..The MXT isn't any slouch either on Gold items, and, to a point "coins"..The T2 is better though..and a lot deeper on small targets..

 

[Monte]

Responding to this post from Elton and in reply to an earlier post I made, let me clarify the Ground Grab and "tracking" situation with the T2, Omega and Gamma models. The post quoted me as follows:

Partial quote from Monte...............(.I commented above about my experiences with auto-tracking circuitry, and I go beyond the XLT, too. The T2 and Omega and Gamma are all "tracking" the ground, similar to the MXT)

In my replies I stated:

With the T2 and the Omega and the Gamma, you have two options: Fast Grab/Ground Grab (same thing, different name), or Manual Ground Cancel.

Fast Grab on the T2 or Ground Grab on the Omega & Gamma are an automated method. In short, YOU do not adjust the Ground Cancel manually, but the detector's circuitry will read the ground and adjust as necessary as you bob the coil. Translated, that means the detector will "track" or "auto-track" or analyze the ground mineral condition for the soil you're bobbing the coil over.

To clarify my own quote, the Fast Grab or Ground Grab on these three models will "track" or "auto-trac" or analyze the ground mineral condition for the soil you're bobbing the coil over. I am referring to actually selecting the Fast Grab or Ground Grab activator toggle or button and then bobbing the search coil. This is true for all three models.


I also stated the following:

If you find a clean spot of ground and bob the coil, briskly, from about 6" down to

 

[lafatlife]

Monte, when you finish your updated manuals on the Omega and the T2, can I buy a copy??? Thanks

 

[Monte]

I hope to have finished sometime this late fall or winter. When done I'll shoot you and any interested an e-mail. There's no doubt that I'll be fitting in as much detecting time as possible before rainy weather settles in and that's when I'll get busier on it. There's a lot to sort out between the current manuals, and actually between each model. A feature or two I wish a couple of them didn't have, but overall they offer a lot that needs to be explained a bit. Also, the G2 will be out soon and I will add it to my efforts. Naturally, that will include working one afield to make sure I don't miss anything.

Monte

 

[lafatlife]

Thanks I appreciate that!!