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nothing mixed in the hole with this one.
9-10" deep.
stock coil.
hits in the top left corner of the IM screen, right at IM-14. i work it, and can only get it to bounce to top middle of the smartscreen. that's as far right as it will go.
i'm in conduct sounds. it sounds great with solid, consistent, and repeatable bangs.
in digital it's at like 30-29 bouncing to like 16-29.
would you dig it?
it has iron written all over it, right?
what would it sound like in ferrous?
 
Iron written all over it, the stains along the edge look like direct contact to me, or at least very close to it.
Great finds, sure wish I could stumble across stuff like that!
DAS
 
below the clayline, come out fine.
and above the clayline come out like that with stains and black coloring, etc..
the clay preserves this silver stuff from discoloration.
this dime was encased in a chunk of clay about 2" in diameter for the most part. that stain piece you see on the dime was where the dime was sticking out of the clay into the layers of soil.
and, as a side note: deep silver hits all the way over to the top left of the smartscreen like iron when it's at the fringe of the detectors detection depth capability. i'm talking 10" deep and more.
 
I hunt old parks and old home sites for coins only and I check all high tone against the dual digital reading, and have found digging a number combination that you don't see often that has the high tone to be rewarding. After 3 years of using ferrous sounds I now have been using conduct for over one year and will stay with the conduct setting because I dig only high tones and the conduct setting will give coins mixed with iron or other trash the higher tone even when coins or silver rings are under iron trash using iron mask -12, as for ferrous setting depending how close the iron is to the coin the tone will be a odd sound but when hunting in real wet soil I do switch back to ferrous at -15 to stop all the high spikes that deep rotting iron gives off when its wet.
 
everyone said use ferrous.
but, i didn't like how minnie balls sounded in ferrous. minnie balls bounce around on the smartscreen. maybe it's because they're not round like coins.
C.C. suggested to me to try conduct one time, and to bump up the gain.
well, i tried it, and have never looked back.
conduct and gain 10 are never changed on my explorer.
just personal preferences for me.
i'll keep ferrous in mind when wet iron causes problems. but, it's unlikely i'll ever switch out of conduct, no matter what.
 
Conduct sure gos deep when other setting or models lose depth. I have been watching all your finds along with CC's and I wish I lived next door to either one of you guys just to see it all in person. Do you know what a round trip ticket by plane cost from you location to central Texas, I am setting up a relic hunt.
 
In my area I often find that the deeper the coin the further to the left it will move, but the conductivity reading stays where I would expect. I think that it is the result of ground mineralization, but am not really sure.
HH,
Glenn
 
I don't look at the LCD so if it sounded good I would have dug it... <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> Nice Find!
-Bill
 
i use them in this order:
1. i'll use sound first.
2. if the sound gets my attention, then i'll go to the smartscreen.
3. and last...the depth guage.
if i make it through the first two steps and get to the depth guage, and see that it's only like an inch or two deep, then most of the time, i'll walk.
i like to see that depth guage more than half way down. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=";)">
 
the deep stuff does go top left corner.
it probably is the mineralization in the ground. or otherwise, why wouldn't it just id deep stuff anywhere on the smartscreen?
something pulls it over into the top iron region.
 
Your settings are working well for you in your area but if you tried to hunt parks around my area with your gain at 10 you would go home empty handed most likely. Two of the four would be un-huntable (if thats a word). <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D"> I'm thinking you would also have great dificulty hunting with any less iron mask than 10 in conductive mode and even at that would be no picnic. I would easily cover twice the ground in ferrous but thats just the site conditions around these parts. There are some areas out in the woods where one could run conductive tones and the gain pretty high.
That said its good to experiment, no reason to get stuck in a rut using the same ferrous or conductive setup all the time.
 
seriously though, i wish you could see it all in person too.
that C.C. can dig some stuff, but i think he's a bit under the weather right now. so, i'm actually taking advantage of all these guys up north being frozen in a bit and posting my finds. they'll be back soon enough though with their pockets full of seated, reales, revolutionary war buttons, and stuff. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=";)">
a relic hunt? are you organizing one?
 
I think thats partially correct. The deeper the coin the further left it will go no doubt about it. But is this due only to the volume of mineralized ground the detector is averaging in with the signal e.g. 9 inches of soil plus a coin = crappy iron like signal?
Lets say thats true and your getting this very iron like signal with the stock 10 inch coil, if you put the 15 inch WOT on you should get the same crappy signal right? Yet put the WOT on and presto it jumps back over to the right side where it belongs and sounds a lot more like a coin.
See thats the tricky part. It would seem that as you near the edge of the stock coils ability to detect the coin in a given soil condition there are fewer magnetic field lines hitting the coin e.g. less coin signal and at some point these are simply overwhelmed by the soil signal. A larger coil like the WOT seems to concentrate the field lines a couple of inches deeper, simple geometry of the coils magnetic field, more lines intersecting the coin, better signal even with the same amount of mineralized ground.
So my two cents worth are, its the combination of soil conditions, target depth, and coil size. Around here coins get crappy sounding about 8-9 inches down with the stock coil. Out in Oregons ugly black sand they get crappy 6-7 inches down. On a NJ beach the stock coil will get some serious depth before they go crappy on you.
 
if i'm right, and i entered a site like that, i would just click on my tornado pattern. easy...one click...IM off and it's there. nice and quiet, free from trash signals. sure, i'll miss something with my pattern, but so what? otherwise it might be un-detectable. and gain would stay on 10.
if those sites are trashy, my tornado pattern will suck those coins right out of the ground. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
i would rather proceed with the above, than switch to ferrous and knock the gain down. just my personal preference.
maybe i would change my mind if i stepped foot with my explorer in one of these parks you're talking about, but i doubt it.
man, charles, if your parks are that bad, you can keep them. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> you're making me feel lucky. <img src="/metal/html/wink.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=";)">
 
and see at what depth the coins start id'ing at the top left of the smartscreen.
for me, with the 8" ML, they start id'ing top left at like 6-7" deep.
joey coil, maybe about 7-8"
stock coil, maybe 9-10".
wot coil, maybe 10-11".
i agree, it's a combination of things.
 
If sound counts the most why let another feature talk you out of digging a target. The only answer I can think of for that method is if there was a certain depth you wanted to start digging at and wanted the meter to go by. Even with gain at 10 if you know the sound you can still cherry pick the deep stuff. I would knock my gain down a notch or two way before I would ever look at he screen.
But I leave the gain at 10 <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
He can keep em. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
Here's the way I see it Charles.
After using ferrous for so long I doubt you would be able to run my high sens., high gain, low disc. in conductive, in the places I hunt, and make any sense of it. So why would you think I couldn't hunt your park? I think that's a reasonable question, and yes I know you weren't talking to me, but I like to argue. <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D">
 
Your a lucky dig if you can find a few colonial sites where the finds are in the clay. Pewter survives so much better.
 
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