i have a an omega 8000 and i have found that once you turn it on it doesn't stop chattering no matter what sense you put it on.it's definatly not a silent detector until a target is found.i bought a 8"concentric coil to use with it hoping that would alleviate the problem,it didn't.different tones what a joke.i have been brainwashed by a xterra 705 tones that actually mean something,not squeaky,squizzel what was that again.not happy jan.selling it.i would like it to be good,i can't keep buying detectors to find out they aren't any good.emubob
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detectingMO
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if it does that out away from buildings, buried power lines, and shifting frequency it's likely a bad coil. But yeah if you got used to the 705 tones you won't be happy unless using 3 or 4 tone and even then its not pleasant on the ears at the 705. The auto noise cancel on the 705 is spoiling as well. They are two different animals. The Omega is far better on coins though.
detectingMO
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Actually they favorite a faster swing. You lose a lot of depth using a FBS paced swing.
does have a quick-response, and it does have a fast-recovery, and unlike some models it doesn't have a "designed in" sweep rate requirement like some detectors we have seen through the years.
So, while it lacks any weird, quirky design, it does allow us to use a variable sweep speed based upon the site condition, if there are some mineralization challenges, much like most 2-filter slow-motion/quick response models have to contend with.
Can we use a fast sweep? Yes, if we want to impress ourselves or a spectator at how well the Omega performs on a target depth response in an air test! A very brisk motion as we wave a coin past the coil when bench-testing the unit can look quite impressive, but we have to deal with the ground signal and any object that might hamper or distort the EMF. So, it is important for us to get a good understanding of the limits for any make or models detector, the coil in use, and the site conditions and detector settings.
With an Omega, as with other models I use for making quick work of a lot of playgrounds I hunt for "flash money," I do use a faster-than-normal sweep speed ... IF I am dealing with a loose, woodchip/bark chip type material, or other very low mineral type material AND if the loose material is rather deep so that the mineralized ground is a good 8" or 12' away from the coil. If I am working a site with short grass, shallow playground material, or any other condition that places the ground mineral anywhere closer to the search coil that maybe 6" or so, then I make it a point to slow my sweep speed down.
If a site is comprised of black sand or other highly mineralized sand, or it is pea gravel, or even chunkier rocks such as those 1" to 1½" diameter rocks in many parking lots, etc., then I know there is enough bad ground in a reactive range for the search coil, so I make it a point to sweep the area deliberately with a slower sweep speed. A fast sweep in such conditions with a detector of this type circuitry design. will usually force in too much ground signal for the detector to process and still pass along a target signal. Air sampling 'depth' performance with a fast sweep is virtually meaningless when in a really bad-ground environment.
The Omega is a versatile detector with a lot of performance potential, and it is my favorite model in the entire Teknetics line, but we have to learn it well to know how to get the most performance out of it ... just like any detector.
Monte
So, while it lacks any weird, quirky design, it does allow us to use a variable sweep speed based upon the site condition, if there are some mineralization challenges, much like most 2-filter slow-motion/quick response models have to contend with.
Can we use a fast sweep? Yes, if we want to impress ourselves or a spectator at how well the Omega performs on a target depth response in an air test! A very brisk motion as we wave a coin past the coil when bench-testing the unit can look quite impressive, but we have to deal with the ground signal and any object that might hamper or distort the EMF. So, it is important for us to get a good understanding of the limits for any make or models detector, the coil in use, and the site conditions and detector settings.
With an Omega, as with other models I use for making quick work of a lot of playgrounds I hunt for "flash money," I do use a faster-than-normal sweep speed ... IF I am dealing with a loose, woodchip/bark chip type material, or other very low mineral type material AND if the loose material is rather deep so that the mineralized ground is a good 8" or 12' away from the coil. If I am working a site with short grass, shallow playground material, or any other condition that places the ground mineral anywhere closer to the search coil that maybe 6" or so, then I make it a point to slow my sweep speed down.
If a site is comprised of black sand or other highly mineralized sand, or it is pea gravel, or even chunkier rocks such as those 1" to 1½" diameter rocks in many parking lots, etc., then I know there is enough bad ground in a reactive range for the search coil, so I make it a point to sweep the area deliberately with a slower sweep speed. A fast sweep in such conditions with a detector of this type circuitry design. will usually force in too much ground signal for the detector to process and still pass along a target signal. Air sampling 'depth' performance with a fast sweep is virtually meaningless when in a really bad-ground environment.
The Omega is a versatile detector with a lot of performance potential, and it is my favorite model in the entire Teknetics line, but we have to learn it well to know how to get the most performance out of it ... just like any detector.
Monte
thanks monte for the in depth reply to it's use.on a bit further this morning,turned the sense up to 99,it sure ran quieter,didn't find anything.went back to something i learned in the earlier days of detecting about high beams in a fog.turned the sense down to 30 and found coins,ran quiet til a target came under the coil,then it spoke to me.not like before it wouldn't shut up.this morning i was using the newly aquired 8"coil,tomorrow going to a local beach,i'll try the 11"dd coil with the reduced sense,emubob
detectingMO
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In my dirt, at sens 49 and 11" DD coil, I can still barely hit a 7" dime and 8" quarter with Version 5/6. At that sense it will be quiet as a mouse in nearly all situations. So I would never worry too much if you have to turn things down. It's a high gain unit. A lot like the F70/F75/T2 in that aspect.
Blank Planet
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yes its an interesting detector like over 70 is boost mode, at the low kHz it does hit high conductors well nice detector for sure, if you are used to a minelab it might seem a bit strange but then most detectors do compared to minelabs, spend some time with it might surprise you.
push down the GG button then turn it on let us know the 1st numbers you see on the screen.
100 hrs on any machine before I make a decision if it goes or stays.
BP
push down the GG button then turn it on let us know the 1st numbers you see on the screen.
100 hrs on any machine before I make a decision if it goes or stays.
BP
Blank Planet
New member
you have the newest software, 1st Texas machines are not like minelabs , I went from gold bug pro, Tesoro's to my 1st minelab xterra 705 it was like I am going to rap this thing around a pole and I see you are feeling the same, in reverse.
if you persevere with the omega it will become clear to what its saying, as it did with me and the minelab.
read up on the setting and re read the manual and start again.
yes they pop hiss and make some strange noises but when you work out what they mean you will find a very nice detector.
I will always have a Fisher/Teknetics machine or 2 reason they find stuff.
it takes time to build new pathways in the brain and to learn new sounds so at the end of the day it's up to you are you willing to take the time to learn the machine just like you did with the minelab?
BP
if you persevere with the omega it will become clear to what its saying, as it did with me and the minelab.
read up on the setting and re read the manual and start again.
yes they pop hiss and make some strange noises but when you work out what they mean you will find a very nice detector.
I will always have a Fisher/Teknetics machine or 2 reason they find stuff.
it takes time to build new pathways in the brain and to learn new sounds so at the end of the day it's up to you are you willing to take the time to learn the machine just like you did with the minelab?
BP
atomicscott
Active member
After using my X-Terra 505 for about 2 years, I am realizing that my Omega version 4 seems deeper with sensitivity at 65 than the X-Terra 505 with the 10.5" DD 7.5 kHz at max sensitivity (20). The "high beams in the fog" analogy that Randy Horton refers to is a very valid point when using the Omega. I have read the Omega is not much deeper, but more sensitive to smaller deeper objects with sens above 70 & I believe it to be true. I had very little EMI problems (almost zero while swinging) when using the 8" concentric, but I prefer the advantages of using an elliptical DD in some of the hotter ground out here and the excellent separation at trashy sites. The NEL Sharpshooter fits the bill perfectly, I really like this coil! I will "hunt into the noise" up into the 70's a bit, but when frequency is on 3 you get a nice little slower beat going (only with detector resting), that is not very annoying. It was a nearly seamless transition for me when switching from the X-Terra to the Omega. I much prefer the faster swing speed, audio, separation & depth of the Omega/NEL Sharpshooter combo. JMHO.