Omega doesn't like disc'ing in trash for coins

[Smooth23]

So I've had my omega 8000 for a few weeks now and am still learning the machine. Been reading what other people have been using, so I've been running with disc at 16-20 most the time, 2 tone. I've also noticed that I don't seem to find any coins like that, at least not many anyhow. Keeping in mind I'm mainly using my 11"DD. Today I was screwing around with settings some more and figured I'd try disc at 0 and 2+ tones. I pulled 2 bucks in clad out of an extremely trashed (lots of iron and foil) area in about a half hour. This machine does seem to do awesome in heavy iron now, its like a machine gun going off with the sound of the iron popping as I swing, but as soon as it chirps in the 80's I know I've hit something worth digging I just need to pinpoint it a little better.

 

[reltolbert]

I use my Omega 8000 in all-metal because it goes deeper and when I get more than 1 target,
I use the high discrimination to find the Silver and then lower the discrimination to find Nickels
and jewelry.
Also, with multiple targets, I raise the coil off the ground a few inches to tell the difference
between target signals.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Your machine does not seem to be working like my machine it does well in iron and trash with the 11DD you may have to try the 5DD and you should find even more.

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Recommended iron settings using the Omega 11" DD are monotone and Disc '16'...........AND............multitone, Disc '0' and as much Sens as you can handle.

 

[Shenandoah Digger]

Disc 0 and 4 tones is the only way to go. When high tone or even mid high comes in, see if you can get it to repeat from 2 directions, and then dig. Works every time.

 

[Monte]

Been reading what other people have been using, so I've been running with disc at 16-20 most the time, 2 tone.

I usually use either the d2 or d4 audio tones with my Omega. If I'm strictly "coin shooting' typical playgrounds and such I use d4. Most of the time, however, I search in d2, especially in iron heavy sites. Most of the time I set my Discriminate level at '1' on the Omega and listen to the low-tone of Iron Vs the higher-pitched tones on non-ferrous targets. on occasions I run the Discrimination to somewhere from 17 to 20 if nails are excessive.

I've also noticed that I don't seem to find any coins like that, at least not many anyhow. Keeping in mind I'm mainly using my 11"DD.

I know many love the 11" DD coil. It's a good coil, but I don't like it when hunting sites with an abundance of iron trash, or where there are multiple targets close and most coins are shallower. I prefer the stock 10" concentric or the 5" DD, especially the 5" when conditions are very trashy and rely on the 11" in more wide-open sites.

Also, have you hunted a variety of sites and have you tried various sweep speeds? I ask because some people tend to sweep some coils too briskly, and that might result in poorer performance.

Today I was screwing around with settings some more and figured I'd try disc at 0 and 2+ tones. I pulled 2 bucks in clad out of an extremely trashed (lots of iron and foil) area in about a half hour. This machine does seem to do awesome in heavy iron now, its like a machine gun going off with the sound of the iron popping as I swing, but as soon as it chirps in the 80's I know I've hit something worth digging I just need to pinpoint it a little better.

Was this a different site than you have worked before? That's a good haul and you're still using 2-tone audio. The only real set-up difference was that you dropped the Discriminate level to '0' (which you can do on a T2 but only to '1' on an Omega) and you said you used 2+ tones (that would be on the T2 as the Omega calls it d2). Still, this is how I usually hunt, accepting all iron and then listening to the audio difference between ferrous junk and non-ferrous desired stuff.

My guess is that it was a different site than before as well as a different Disc. setting. Just give it time and work with each coil you have, also learn the best sweep speed for each coil at various locations so you can get the most out of your Omega.

Monte

 

[Smooth23]

Was this a different site than you have worked before? That's a good haul and you're still using 2-tone audio. The only real set-up difference was that you dropped the Discriminate level to '0' (which you can do on a T2 but only to '1' on an Omega) and you said you used 2+ tones (that would be on the T2 as the Omega calls it d2). Still, this is how I usually hunt, accepting all iron and then listening to the audio difference between ferrous junk and non-ferrous desired stuff.

My guess is that it was a different site than before as well as a different Disc. setting. Just give it time and work with each coil you have, also learn the best sweep speed for each coil at various locations so you can get the most out of your Omega.

Monte[/color]

I have worked that site before, with the ace250. You're correct about me using disc of 1 not zero, my bad. I am using d2 for my tones. Going to try those settings at another site I've hunted repeatedly but is usually my clad honey hole, see how it fares. I'm sure as soon as I have this machine figured out it'll be an absolute beast. Wish I could afford one of those 5"dd coils, but right now its not in the books. Find me a couple gold rings,,,.....

 

[Smooth23]

Went out again tonight using the settings above. Went to a local school where 4 baseball/softball fields come together. highly trashed, lots of canslaw, foil and nails. Managed to pull $2.55 in clad and a junk ring in about 2 1/2 hours... something like 50 coins total.

 

[otlew]

First Impressions:

I received my 8000 with the 11" DD yesterday, did the recommended air tests for setup and familiarization with its tones and settings. I have read the manual twice and probably will read it twice more before the facts sink in.

I took it for a spin on the beach last evening. Overall not a bad experience, of course I am still in the learn this machine mode. I hit on 4 zincs and a nickel and every time it ID correctly and put out the expected sound. Due to the changing sand conditions I must have Ground Balanced 7 times or more, had one area loaded with nails which were easy to pass by.

I tried some of the settings given in this thread for the discrimination mode, such as 1 & d4, I hit all the coins on the disc 1 & d4 setting. I brought test coins and used those for in situ calibration. With those it didn't seem to matter what the setting were, it always rang those up correctly, but that is to be expected I suppose.

Played with the other settings of course, and got used to the feel of the machine, it is light and better than average on the ergonomics, but not perfect. I have some ideas I want to try to make it fit me better.

Pinpointing seems to be the issue for me now. The 11" DD is new to me, so I have some work to do on the pinpointing skills. If in a few weeks I am still happy with the machine I will probably start hunting for 5" and 10" coils. It would be nice if the Fisher coils were compatible, as it would make the coil hunt a lot shorter.

Over and out for now!

 

[otlew]

My coil arrived in the mail just this morning. Hooked it up, and ran the owner's manual air tests. It seems more stable than the 11 DD, and was more faithful about repeating on test objects, but of course it gives up about an inch or so of depth to the 11 DD, at least in my hands. Others may get much better results with both coils, knowing how to optimize the machine for depth.

As I say I just ran through the manual familiarization routine.

 

[Monte]

I enjoy all three coils that I got with my Omega, especially the 10" for "average" open to moderate areas of search, and the 5" DD when it gets brushy or trashy., Yes, it will give up an inch or so, depending upon the environment, to the 11" DD, but I like the 11" BiAxial DD in more open, low-target sites where I can take advantage of depth gains.

Great detector, and a great set of coils that compliment each other very well. I think you'll come to like all that you own and use in time.

Monte