Omega found coin in iron - and more

[earthmansurfer]

I went detecting on Thursday and hit an area I had been working. I found 6 more coins from the 1821, 1835, 1836 and 1875 (my best day as far as amount of old coins). One was a very small silver Kreuzer. Another one was a voucher for a beer, but looked like a coin, hence no date. That got me laughing - I'm in Germany of course. If you saw my last pic the coins are in similar shape, ok but hard to read. They are copper I think.

There was iron every swing so there are many masked targets. (Except for my nice old silver coin from a past post, all of the coins have been found with iron around). I am still using the 11" DD coil as it seems to perform well and give very very good depth. About half way through the day, I got a solid signal at around 60 I think and the depth meter said around 3" down. I used my Lesche knife and found a coin down at 3". I covered the hole and checked again. This time I got a good signal but from 6" it said. Well, around 8" down or more I recovered an iron ring about 2" across (Maybe it came from an Ox?). I know in the other order it would have probably been impossible to recover the coin (coin under iron) but the Omega picked the shallower coin out with a fairly big piece of iron below with no problems.

Of note, all of the coins I found were dime size or smaller. One of them was about 3-4" deep and completely on edge but it gave a fairly good signal. I was really impressed with that.

The Omega is still performing nicely. I had her running on max sensitivity, GB from 55-60, no Fe bars, discrimination at 0 most of the time and as high as 16. I have to say, the Omega is easier to listen to in iron than my T2 was. The iron is just softer and I'm starting to prefer hearing it if it's not too ridiculously thick. I'm still running in mode 2 and checking in mode 4.

 

[txquest]

Thanks for the info. When you say you got a solid signal on your coin target in the iron, was the signal repeatable both ways, or just a one way signal? Thanks again Txquest

 

[earthmansurfer]

Thanks for the info. When you say you got a solid signal on your coin target in the iron, was the signal repeatable both ways, or just a one way signal? Thanks again Txquest

All the coins gave 4 way signals (Maybe not all 4 directions were clear though, but they would hit from 4 ways). None of them were covered by the iron but during the swing you could hear the iron around the coin. (Sometimes the iron would real close to the coin but with a short few inch swing I could still hit the coin.) I haven't dug a one way coin signal with the Omega since I got it. The coin with the iron ring below gave a 4 way signal too. I have to go through the area with the 5" coil when I exhaust the more obvious places.

Do you guys dig many one or two way signals that end up being coins? I dig anything that is above iron for the most part, so I dig a lot but this spot doesn't have a lot of trash, just a lot of iron.

 

[Monte]

I went detecting on Thursday and hit an area I had been working. I found 6 more coins from the 1821, 1835, 1836 and 1875 (my best day as far as amount of old coins). One was a very small silver Kreuzer. Another one was a voucher for a beer, but looked like a coin, hence no date. That got me laughing - I'm in Germany of course. If you saw my last pic the coins are in similar shape, ok but hard to read. They are copper I think.

Congrats on the successful hunt with older coins.

There was iron every swing so there are many masked targets.

Fun types of sites to hunt, and certainly one where I would mainly use the 5" DD coil.

I am still using the 11" DD coil as it seems to perform well and give very very good depth. About half way through the day, I got a solid signal at around 60 I think and the depth meter said around 3" down. I used my Lesche knife and found a coin down at 3". I covered the hole and checked again. This time I got a good signal but from 6" it said. Well, around 8" down or more I recovered an iron ring about 2" across (Maybe it came from an Ox?). I know in the other order it would have probably been impossible to recover the coin (coin under iron) but the Omega picked the shallower coin out with a fairly big piece of iron below with no problems.

Yes, that was the desired 'order' of good stuff Vs bad. One of the things in your favor was using a rather low Discriminate setting, as well as the coin being notably shallower than the larger iron object. It reminded me of when I tried to persuade a friend to upgrade to a better ghost town detector several years ago,

At the time we were mainly using a Tesoro model (there wasn't a Teknetics around like today) and he had/has an older TID Tesoro with very limited low-end Discrimination adjustment. That is, it doesn't adjust very low and at minimum it is well above iron nail rejection and into knocking out a lot of foil. Tesoro had gone to their labeled ED-120 Discrimination in the then-new Bandido I was using and I wanted him to realize just how much he was missing by using a higher Discriminate setting ... even though that model was at the minimum adjustment.

Well, I came across a circular disk on the surface of my favorite old ghost town and brushed it off to see an 1868 Shield 5

 

[earthmansurfer]

As usual, thanks for your time Monte. You again taught me a few things that I will incorporate into my next hunt.
Most notably:
I usually don't move around and try to get a 4-way response. If a 1-way 'beep' sounds off and the site is maybe a bit littered, I still check it out. I usually spend too much time investigating these and not just digging. I got tired of only digging iron with 2 way signals. As I said I was getting tricked in iron with the Omega, and digging it.
Your comment/example on using lower discrimination.

Even though I run low or no discrimination it's nice to have that example with your friend. QUITE OFTEN I get a slight signal when running discrim of 16 and then when I drop it to 0 it either comes in clear or I see it as iron.

Yeah, I know, I've got to go through that productive part of the place I hunt with the 5". I'll just go through it quickly and slow down and focus on where the iron is thicker, as I know the 11"DD could have easily missed some targets.

As I hunt more in iron I actually like playing with mode d4. I know it's not as deep, but in iron the beep stands out more to me than the modulated audio. I'm still hunting in d2 primarily, but mode d4 is a bit more attractive these days. I can see why people like it in trash. (By the way, though iron is trash to me too, when I said trash I was talking more about aluminum and metal bits.) Outside of d4 being amplified, do you think it's a different form of processing that d2? I think it might be more sampled...