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Pinpointing

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Still having problems pinpointing. Followed the answer I got on my other post, but still no luck. I just cannot understand what is going on. I have got great signals that I know are good coins, but short of using a shovel and dynamite, just cannot located anything. These coin always are the deeper ones. Shows on depth 8 plus inches. The only coins I have got where in 4 inch ranch. I like this instrument fine, but this little items is driving me nuts! Help!:(
 
how loud are these targets and are the repeating from all directions? is the line of detection very narrow and not spread out? if you lift the coil off the ground how high do you get before the signal disappears? after you dig the ho;e 8 or 10 inches deep does the signal get louder or quieter?
 
First of all, when pinpointing, if you are using the waggle method and drawing the coil back towards you till the signal is silent,... then the target will be under the front edge of the label NOT the front edge of the coil.
An electronic pinpointer is a great accessory. Once you get a good solid signal, if after digging the plug, you can not hear the coin anymore then there are usually two reasons..
one.. the coin is deep and since there is now an air space.. you can no longer hear the coin.. try digging deeper.. This where a good pinpointer comes in since you can probe the bottom of the hole and the sides to assist in seeing the target quicker.
two.. the coin/target is in the loose dirt and sometimes the explorer has a problem seeing a target shallow.. especially if it is a small piece of copper (22 shell)or if the coin is now on edge.
The Pariscope, the Iinytec and others will work work just fine... Most guys who try one, will not hunt with out one.
Email me if anyone needs further clarifications.
Jim Vokes
 
They are very loud,yes they are repeatable. The line seems to be narrow. I admit I did not try lifting the coil. The signal strenght did not
seem to change much, and the few that changed were louder. I think I will try to get the 8" coil in near future and see if this helps. Also there are so many sounds that it is hard to pick the ones you need to know. Man I know this is going to give me gray hair.
 
waggle, if this after you push the pinpoint button? I try to locate the target in regular mode, and get repeatable signals with cross hair upper right. Then push pinpoint and slowly move over target till I get the loudest tone. With Sov tone would drop off and be in front of coil, but with Explorer as coil moves off target, I still get tones. I know that I will give a good fight before I let this Explorer beat me into submission.
 
before the coil comes off the target.. actually it goes silent when it comes off the label about 2 inches inside the coil... If you still have a pinpoint tone after the coil comes off the target, then I suspect that you have multiple targets under the coil. Try pinpointing again at 90 degrees aslo. this might help pin down the actual target.
Good Luck..
 
AJ, when things start to get alittle more confordable theres only a few sounds that you want to listen for. take your time .
HH
stan pa. sjmdc
 
from what I'm hearing, you are getting some good sounding deep targets, but no amount of downward excavation exposes a good target. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the majority of those signals you are describing are really nails in the side of your hole. This is a very common and extremely frustrating experience. I can just about guarantee that if you round out your hole large enough to stick the whole coil down in there and then scan around the side of the hole in pinpoint, you'll get a lock in one side of the hole and if you dig out that side of the hole, you'll find a nail about 6-8 inches deep. Now I realize it is no fun chasing after these nice sounding nails, much less digging out large excavations to recover them.
This brings me to the point I want to make... when you first get your good signal, check it thoroughly by first making a series of short, rapid sweeps over the target from at least 2-3 different angles... the signal should be repeatable and landing in the right portion of the screen on nearly all of your sweeps. You should not be getting any tell-tale signs of Iron, for example if your hunting with a discrimination pattern of any kind where the right 1/3 of the screen is rejected, AND you have an audible threshold tone while searching, an Iron target will null out in and around the "good" signal. If you are not hunting in Iron Mask, you can do a neat little trick.... after getting an iffy signal, switch to Iron Mask with it adjusted all the way open to -16 where the iron is accepted, and resweep the target, any repeatable hits in the extreme upper left corner is Iron. Lets go out to the park for a little demo.....
Now, you are hunting... and you get a faint signal that reads in the coin range on most of the hits. You pinpoint the signal by sweeping from several different directions and you get it down to the exact spot you are sure it's at. Now you switch back out of pinpoint and resweep over that pinpoint spot with short, rapid sweeps from different angles..... UH OH!!! Now the signal is choppy and my threshold tone is nulled out. Guess what, you have a nail.... move on!
After a couple of minutes, you get another faint signal like the one before that was iron. But as you sweep over this one, you notice that the threshold blends nicely into the signal and it doesn't null out like the other one. You go to pinpoint and make several sweeps from different angles over the spot and get a short crackly sound... the shorter you make your sweep, the better you home in on the exact target center. Now you recheck that center in your search mode and, BINGO! A nice solid hit... faint but very repeatable, no nulling around the signal and your crosshairs bounce in a steady back and forth pattern in the upper right hand corner. <IMG SRC="/forums/images/biggrin.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":D"> Now, dig your old coin!!!
If you can get this down pat, you'll greatly reduce your digging for nails that "aren't there" and increase your good finds.... so much so that on the odd occasion you do dig up a nail, you think " I kinda knew that one was going to be iron... I thought I heard that steady null around the signal, or I wasn't getting any good hit when I swept it from the one angle".
Don't give up, yet!!! Practice, practice, practice. I still have my days where I spend a lot of time "chasing nails" but when I finally get that good old deep coin, the nail digging experiences sorta fade away <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)"> Good luck and let me know if you make any progress. HH, Mike.
 
Mike.
From what I gather you dig every good sounding target. Do you find that there is a ratio of good to bad targets? Or how many bad ones would you expect to dig up before you hit the next seated coin or keeper.
Thanx Al
 
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