[size=medium]I lost the so called nut part of the plastic hardware yesterday.It must have unwound itself from the threads of the plastic bolt. So I contacted the dealer I bought the G2 from and he quoted me a price of 12.00 and that included shipping. I recently used a coupon from Teknetics and bought the lower rod and plastic hardware assembly for 10.00. I think I will be heading to Lowes for a nylon bolt and wingnut but its a SHAME to charge this 12.00 fee for two pieces of plastic that I can go to LOWES and spend less than two bucks tax and all.[/size]
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Plastic Hardware for connection of search coil $12.00 WHAT !!!
- Thread starter Sonny1965
- Start date
What??? Two bucks for something that cost less than 10 cents to manufacture.
Try to image what the mark-up is on a new metal detector.
It's not the cost of manufacturing that sets the price, it's the demand that is setting the outlandish prices we have to pay.
I bet some of these $500 plus detectors would be selling for a lot less money if people stopped shelling out that much to buy them.
I, like everyone else, sells their product for the most money that the buying public will tolerate.
That's a good thing.
Good for you that you didn't pay $12 for a plastic nut and bolt, because if everyone did, the cost of them would rise even higher.
Try to image what the mark-up is on a new metal detector.
It's not the cost of manufacturing that sets the price, it's the demand that is setting the outlandish prices we have to pay.
I bet some of these $500 plus detectors would be selling for a lot less money if people stopped shelling out that much to buy them.
I, like everyone else, sells their product for the most money that the buying public will tolerate.
That's a good thing.
Good for you that you didn't pay $12 for a plastic nut and bolt, because if everyone did, the cost of them would rise even higher.
Big Boys Hobbies
Well-known member
Sonny,
Send me you address and I will take care of it. I will eat the cost.
Send me you address and I will take care of it. I will eat the cost.
Most of these parts are specially made for the detectors, even though it is a plastic bolt or nut as i know those for the Explorers, E-Trac and the E-Terra are specially made, but others may work fine too but don't look at nice. To set up a mold for them cost a bit and to only make maybe lets say 5000 verses a reg plastic bolt and nut for 100,000 the cost per unit is much more for the 5000 one. Now lets say the detector company cost them 25 cents a piece and charge the dealer 30 cents for each one that's not too bad, but most come in a package of 10 so now the dealer has $3 which is fine and still reasonable per unit. Now the dealer to make it worth while and to show some kind of a profit and to set on the other 9 units he has his cash into he decides to sell them for 50 cents apiece. Now the kicker is if you pick it up at his shop for 50 cents he does make a little, but hardly worth it, but if he has to ship it there is the cost of the package and the postage which is more than the actual bolt and nut, this is what brings the cost up.
When the dealer order them in it is best he does this when he orders in his detectors to save on the shipping cost or the cost would be more too. Now there is some of the bigger detector company's have a minimum shipping of $9 on anything they ship so you can see that little 25 cent part can get to be over $12 to get it shipped to you.
My idea for those little parts that may break or you lose is to either buy some extras to have when needed or the dealer can throw in a set or 2 on the nuts and bolts as it cost very little to do this for him and real good customer relations. May never need them, but if you do you will have them.
I also feel any detector dealer should keep in stock these extra coil parts instead of having their customers posting trying to find some on the forums as this is what your dealer is there for.
When the dealer order them in it is best he does this when he orders in his detectors to save on the shipping cost or the cost would be more too. Now there is some of the bigger detector company's have a minimum shipping of $9 on anything they ship so you can see that little 25 cent part can get to be over $12 to get it shipped to you.
My idea for those little parts that may break or you lose is to either buy some extras to have when needed or the dealer can throw in a set or 2 on the nuts and bolts as it cost very little to do this for him and real good customer relations. May never need them, but if you do you will have them.
I also feel any detector dealer should keep in stock these extra coil parts instead of having their customers posting trying to find some on the forums as this is what your dealer is there for.
MNCoinhunter
Active member
I bought my Ace 250 from Kellyco. When I decided to pick up an extra set of hardware for it (just in case)....it took me less than a minute to find a set on ebay.
It's really hard to spin that $12 for a little plastic bolt and nut is the result of manufacturing and shipping.
I'd sell them for $40 if I could get away with it.
You have to balance doing so with short and long term customer relations.
BTW, if the manufacture is smart they would standardize the nut and bolt to fit all or most of their detectors they sell.
I know I would, because it would cut cost and increase profits.
Profits is a good thing.
I'd sell them for $40 if I could get away with it.
You have to balance doing so with short and long term customer relations.
BTW, if the manufacture is smart they would standardize the nut and bolt to fit all or most of their detectors they sell.
I know I would, because it would cut cost and increase profits.
Profits is a good thing.
I believe that bolt & nut does fit all or most of FT's lower shafts/coils (at least their newer ones).tabman said:It's really hard to spin that $12 for a little plastic bolt and nut is the result of manufacturing and shipping.
I'd sell them for $40 if I could get away with it.
You have to balance doing so with short and long term customer relations.
BTW, if the manufacture is smart they would standardize the nut and bolt to fit all or most of their detectors they sell.
I know I would, because it would cut cost and increase profits.
Profits is a good thing.
D&P-OR said:I believe that bolt & nut does fit all or most of FT's lower shafts/coils (at least their newer ones).tabman said:It's really hard to spin that $12 for a little plastic bolt and nut is the result of manufacturing and shipping.
I'd sell them for $40 if I could get away with it.
You have to balance doing so with short and long term customer relations.
BTW, if the manufacture is smart they would standardize the nut and bolt to fit all or most of their detectors they sell.
I know I would, because it would cut cost and increase profits.
Profits is a good thing.
I figured that was the case.
They like making money.
There's nothing wrong with that if they can keep the customers happy.
I like the way Tesoro does business myself.
The mfg cost of the part is only a small part of what it costs to deliver it to a customer. Remember if the place you are doing BUSINESS with has a payroll, showroom, phone, etc a piece of that cost should be shared by each customer. Then the selfish so & so probably wants to feed his family and pay his mortgage from the only source of income he has- his business. You want him to drop everything for ONLY 15 or 20 minutes so he can make 30 cents on a $3 sale which you will probably want to charge it AND have him eat the cost of postage. Nice.
Yes, big ticket items pay the largest share, of course. Even lawyers do probono work, but it is unfair to demand or demean when we don't get it. One can easily get eaten alive by 'customers' who want time and service without paying. I know I am pre-loaded on the subject. I used to have a computer consulting (hardware/software repair) service. I was the cheapest rates in town and if I didn't fix it you didn't pay. Every year my tax preparer said "Dude, its a hobby, not a business. You have to make a profit to be a business!" So I don't do it any more. Yes, its galling to pay inflated prices. Professionals who don't make a profit are won't be for long. Government and union workers may take longer to fail, but eventually math wins in the end.
Tom
Yes, big ticket items pay the largest share, of course. Even lawyers do probono work, but it is unfair to demand or demean when we don't get it. One can easily get eaten alive by 'customers' who want time and service without paying. I know I am pre-loaded on the subject. I used to have a computer consulting (hardware/software repair) service. I was the cheapest rates in town and if I didn't fix it you didn't pay. Every year my tax preparer said "Dude, its a hobby, not a business. You have to make a profit to be a business!" So I don't do it any more. Yes, its galling to pay inflated prices. Professionals who don't make a profit are won't be for long. Government and union workers may take longer to fail, but eventually math wins in the end.
Tom
TabWhisperer
Member
When I buy a detector or coil I always buy spare parts like the coil hardware and battery packs. I have stuff in my bag I've never used, but it's there just in case. I hate to have a hunt cut short over dropping a plastic bolt or nut which really seems cheap when compared to gas and my time. I would think it would be good customer service to include some spare bolts and washers with a sale of new hardware. It seems like a minor oversight with real annoying endings.