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Quattro depth?

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JHM

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I've read about 10 inch coins with the Quattro.I'm starting to wonder If I've got a bad egg.I'm averaging about 3-4inches running in manual with the sensitivity set at 17. I buried 2 silver dimes one at 6 inches and the other at 8 inches.Then wet the hole to help the dirt settle. I could barely read them both. The shallow coin would read a 37 if you hit it just right. I could only read a -10 on the deep coin when I raised the sensitivity to 20.Is this typical? I'm thinking about sending it in for a check up.
 
Don't have a Quattro. Not ruling out the possibility that it's broke.

But my experience with a Sov on fresh buried coins goes like this......

I have iron rich soil. Soaking a hole really turns on the iron in the dirt and causes severe nulling as the coil passes from the drier dirt around the hole to the wet dirt in the hole........can't detect worth a crap that way.

You may have set up a test that is doomed to fail.

HH
 
I may need to give it some time and let it settle. I was looking for the best setting. So far, I feel confident that I can find a 6" deep coin laying flat in the coin and jewelry mode at 17 sens, if I run in the high trash setting. I'm going to give it some time and see what happens. I'm expecting a big rain Monday, this may change things.
 
I am new to the Quattro too. Was ready to get rid of it right off the bat. Got the 8 inch concentric coil and tried again. Whole new world. I did use the stock coil at the beach and found several coins 10+ inches. Have found several 6 inch coins in soil. Give it some time and try the different settings. And, I would also get either the 8 inch Minelab DD coil or the EXcellerator 8 inch concentric coil.(I had a tough time pinpointing anything with the stock 10.5 coil.) Believe me, it will grow on you once you find the right setup and accessories. And, I am sure it will soon be one of your favorite machines.
 
Might help. Getting all the dirt in the vicinity of your fresh buried coin all the same moisture content down to the same depth should help.

Best I ever did on a fresh buried coin that came close to approximating a real buried coin went like this.........

Some low ground that flooded when it rained. Soil was well settled and high density ---not airy. Had some moisture, but not a lot. Moisture seemed consistent from surface to 10".

Buried a clad dime to 10" and filled the hole an inch or so at a time, tamping the dirt in as hard as possible until the dirt was finally all back in the hole.

Reasponse on the Sov was pretty close to what I would expect for a deep fringe hit on a real coin.

All other attempts at fresh burying coins gave pathetic results.

HH
 
Thanks for the help, I was wondering about the depth on a Sov. I started to buy one . I'm used to a quicker sweep and the learning curve on this machine has been pretty tuff.I'm finding a lot of clad but the deep good stuff is taking a while.
 
don't know if you should sweep faster with the Quattro than is right for the Sov. Someone who is good with both might be able to help on that point.

Always will wonder how deep that coin could have been detected with more moisture and a good halo. :lol:

Play with your adjustments to see what you can do with real targets. Makes a difference.

HH
 
The only way I can pinpoint really well is use the pinpoint feature on the machine at 90 degree angles.
 
but then I started getting used to it. But now I have the 8" concentric coil for it and man what a difference it makes. I might lose a little depth, but the pinpointing, less weight, and better in trash makes me like the Quattro even more.

NOW, in my area, (Central Florida) I can hit coins at 12" with the DD coil in the right situation and right coin. Now with the 8" concentric coil, I have dug 10+ inches for coins, but it's a stretch at 10". So if your using the DD coil and all your getting is less then 6" I would definately call Minelab. It might be a bad coil.
 
Hello JHM, in answer to your first post, go into some of the posts from Mike in Virginia, as he addresses your problem. You haven't said what the ground is like where you're detecting in. If you run your sensitivity too high, the detector is trying too read too much at once, especially if you're in trashy ground. If this is the case, drop it right back, check you're set in High Trash setting, and begin to use a mode such as coin, noise cancelling regularly to ensure smooth running of the detector. Bear in mind, your machine will perform differently in different types of ground, and you need to adjust the detector accordingly, and that comes with lots of practice and a good knowledge of your detector. The Sovereign is a great machine, a of mine friend has the latest Sovereign GT, but it doesn't go as deep as the Quattro. If you want a deep machine, the Quattro is a good way to. I've done a side to side comparision with the Sovereign and found the Quattro will give you at least 30% more depth, if not more. But that also depends on the ground your working in. Do a test garden with different targets, at different depths, and experiment with your settings, it's one of the best ways to learn.
Cheers Angela:detecting::):minelab:
 
Thanks for the help. I noticed this while I was making a test garden. I was going to bury some at 6,8,& 10 inches. After checking the 8 inch coin, I didn't bother with the 10. I may need to wait and let the dirt settle in. I had already cleaned the area. The soil is clay but I don't know how much iron is in it. I think it would help to check the settings and listen to the response to a known target.I like the the controls and features of the Quattro. And I believe it I identifies targets better than any detector I've ever used.I can't wait to start digging the deep stuff.
 
Just use the Quattro a bit and like the Sovereign or the Explorer the more you use it the better you will get.
Depth is something you get once you know your detector and i find fresh buried coins only give you half the depth of one that is actually buried for years. I have seen many of coin preburried in the ground that 5 inches is all they will get, but that same detector with some experience will pick out 10 inch dimes when you know what to listen for.
Depth on the Quattro at first when I got mine was nothing to brag about, but after some use and understanding it I picked up a barber dime a friend on mine with the Explorer got a weak signal on and wanted to see if the Quattro could even see it. The Quattro could see it with no problem and actually seen it better than the Explorer, tried my lift the coil and reset the threshold and it locked on every time to a good signal. Let my friend try it and he too agreed the Quattro seen it better than his Explorer. This was a barber dime at 10 inches. I went on to find a 1917 Wheaties with the Quattro that was deeper yet, but the signal was questionable being it was in with nails.
Use the Quattro, get to know it and what the adjustments will do, try not to use too much disc ( I like the relic or all metal mode and set very little disc as I like the ferrous tones because of rusty nails) and in some cases too much sensitivity will get you less depth too as it see too much trash that can cover up a good signals.

Good Luck and have patience
Rick
 
Thanks for the reply. I was unaware the a fresh buried coin would be that much harder to detect. I'm hunting in spots that have been hunted for years and there may not be much left. I've always heard "slow and steady wins the race", guess that's what applies here.
 
NNow I am going to Virgina on a 3000 acre farm where there is a Civil
War fort I am going to find me some deep stuff going to run in all metal if I barley get a high tone me digging it
 
Hi Angela

Your husband Garry has an Explorer II correct?
Tell me how your Quattro compares depth wise and finds rate.
Compared at the beach and inland hunting relics and coins.
Just what you think and see, in hi trash and low.
I have a Quattro and wish for an Explorer.
Should I stick with what I have.

Rick
in North Carolina
 
Hello Rick, yes Garry has the Explorer 2. He really loves it. It's a great machine, a bit more of a learning curb than the Quattro. I've used it myself a few times, and could well and truly be ready to move up to it, if I wanted to. But I'm very happy with the performance of the Quattro. The reasons are: it's a really deep machine at the beach, and I don't have any problems with it in wet sand or shallow water. When I say 'deep', I'm talking about 2 and a half feet in sand, pulling out sinkers. In the goldfields, where I live, the ground is very high iron, trashy, but the Quattro copes very well, and I've gotten relics and coins at 12-14 inches, sometimes deeper. That's generally the deepest some targets appear to go. I'm talking about really hard, compacted and rocky ground in places. Sometimes after a good rain, going over the same areas, the Quattro picks up more targets, that it didn't seem to read on a prior day. Garry does go a bit deeper with his machine in the goldfields. But whether we are there, or at the beach, at the end of the day, I always seem to find more targets than him. It has him baffled. It seems to go deeper in the Low Trash setting, but on occasion, it has gone deeper in High Trash. In fact, sometimes at the beach, I prefer to work in High Trash than low, even if the sand is quiet. Just depends on the beach. (Some beaches are mineralized, so the High Trash seems better for it). The Quattro definitely locks onto targets better than the Explorer. And that's a big plus for me. Even my son uses it occasionally, and he's found a few coins, with no trouble pinpointing them with the DD coil. It's just a feel I have about it Rick. It's a powerful, no nonscense detector. I just wish Minelab would bring out an underwater Quattro. Then I'd be in heaven!
Don't know if I've said too much or too little! Hope it's helped Rick.
Cheers Angela:detecting::):minelab:
 
Angela

Thanks so much for your thoughts on these machines
and you could never say too much about them to me.
I now feel better about my Quattro I will have to keep it
for the beach and buy an explorer II also one day. I have
only used the factory 10.5" coil but I have a Joey coil
coming to help me handle the high trash sites around here I hope. Good luck to you and Garry.

Rick
 
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