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do any of you guys or gals know how to adjust the sensitivity on the quattro//?? thanks and merry christmas all from frozen wisc. please email me with the answer it would be appreciated
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Yes, you push the Menu/Select touchpad button, which enters the menu setup. Once in there, it will already be on the "Sensitivity" adjust icon...it's the first one. Now just press the Menu/Select touchpad again and it will enter adjustment mode. Now you can adjust it using the left and right arrow touchpad. The default for the Sensitivity is "Auto" and I've been getting killer depth on mine with Auto. The actual adjustment range is 1 to 20 and the best that I can figure, the Auto setting adjusts it according to what the software probably determines is best for the environment. I'm going to talk to Minelab about that. I'm guessing that the Auto mode probably has it somewhere around 15, give or take a point or two.
I've been out on two hunts with mine and have been using the Coin/Jewelry program with the sensitivity and everything else set to default. The performance has been impressive. I'm finding stuff again at "hunted out" sites. I tried running the sensitivty up and down between about 15 and Auto and I didn't seem to notice much difference in either depth or stability. I figure if it works as good as it does in Auto I'll leave it there for a while.
You can also adjust a number of other things in there by moving between the selections with the arrow keys. Did you just get this Quattro? Got a book? Did this help at all?
I've been out on two hunts with mine and have been using the Coin/Jewelry program with the sensitivity and everything else set to default. The performance has been impressive. I'm finding stuff again at "hunted out" sites. I tried running the sensitivty up and down between about 15 and Auto and I didn't seem to notice much difference in either depth or stability. I figure if it works as good as it does in Auto I'll leave it there for a while.
You can also adjust a number of other things in there by moving between the selections with the arrow keys. Did you just get this Quattro? Got a book? Did this help at all?
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Quattro and Explorer are two different units. I understand so much so Andy Sabisch has a book coming out which should help.Remember many of the forum members are diehard Explorer users as they have the learning period down( some foumd it easy and others hard) tough to beat an Explorer in my estimation. At first thought it was put on the market as a user friendly Explorer and seeing some feedback seems like it is not. Am sure as time goes by more members will be equipped with a Quattro and experienced members will be able to answer your questions.Right now except for some of our southern members we are all froze in and Quattro input will be spotty at best...One wonders if a Quattro classroom forum will emerge in the near future..
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Mike has answered the adjustment of the Sen. question. I have seen a few questions that I may be able to answer. The sen. is 1 to 20 and auto. I believe running Sen. at 20 is like the Eplorer at 28. There are many areas that the Explorer could not be run any higher than that anyway, unless you run in semi-auto. Even then you never know what the Sen. realy is.
So being realistic that is my comparison. The Quattro <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">is not an Explorer</span>. It is an offering to those that want FBS technology, in an easy to use package. Remember the Explorer release in 2000. How many bought and sold it because of its complexity? How many learned it and did well?
I will say, The Quattro has very good pinpoint on mid-range targets and easy to use. Also saves consumers about 500.00 from purchase of Explorer.
Just My Opinion
So being realistic that is my comparison. The Quattro <span style="background-color:#ffff00;">is not an Explorer</span>. It is an offering to those that want FBS technology, in an easy to use package. Remember the Explorer release in 2000. How many bought and sold it because of its complexity? How many learned it and did well?
I will say, The Quattro has very good pinpoint on mid-range targets and easy to use. Also saves consumers about 500.00 from purchase of Explorer.
Just My Opinion
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Gee guys I think my post came out all wrong.Don't own a Quattro and from feedback I got back it works similiar to an Explorer but set up is a lot different. Taking this into consideration an experienced Explorer user could not tell a new Quattro owner how to set up his unit. Basically lots of fellows had problems setting up an Explorer and some did not. Actually many Explorers hit the classifieds for this reason, Minelab therefore came out with a unit easier to set up at a reduced price to bring more into the Minelab Explorer type unit.Once we get more Quattro users am sure questioned will be answered more freely and feedback will start to come in for the new kid on the block.
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Well you're certainly on the money with the "easier to set up" FBS offering. The Quattro is simple to set up. In fact, it pretty much comes down to which one of the preset modes you want to use. I like Coin/Jewelry. See, the linear notch setup is from -10 to +40, with the negative numbers being ferrous stuff. So in "All Metal" you get -10 to +40. In "Relic" you get (if I remember correctly...I loaned the manual to my buddy to read) like -3 to +40 and in Coin/Jewelry it's 0 to +40, with a quarter being like a 37/38, dime a 35 or 36 maybe, etc. There's also a "Coin" program that cuts out a few other of the obvious numbers to eliminate pulltabs and stuff. And of course you can custom-notch your own program and save it.
As for the sensitivity, "Auto" is the default and the range is 1 to 20. What I still don't know is what value "Auto" actually uses. That would be helpful to know if you wanted to tweak it. I assume it's around 15 but will ask Minelab to be sure. As Joe said, taking it out of Auto and setting it to 20 would be maxing it out. But in the "Auto" sens setting it gets some excellent depth, I know that.
Your idea of a <STRONG>"Quattro Classroom"</STRONG> is of course an option. But since the <STRONG>BBS Forum </STRONG>is now the <STRONG>"Sovereign and Excalibur Forum" </STRONG>, doesn't it stand to reason that we should just rename this place the <STRONG>"Explorer and Quattro Forum"</STRONG>? Since it seems that people ARE buying them and they will probably catch on. I mean, these Explorer guys seem pretty friendly so far. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
Hope you had a Merry Christmas buddy. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
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As for the sensitivity, "Auto" is the default and the range is 1 to 20. What I still don't know is what value "Auto" actually uses. That would be helpful to know if you wanted to tweak it. I assume it's around 15 but will ask Minelab to be sure. As Joe said, taking it out of Auto and setting it to 20 would be maxing it out. But in the "Auto" sens setting it gets some excellent depth, I know that.
Your idea of a <STRONG>"Quattro Classroom"</STRONG> is of course an option. But since the <STRONG>BBS Forum </STRONG>is now the <STRONG>"Sovereign and Excalibur Forum" </STRONG>, doesn't it stand to reason that we should just rename this place the <STRONG>"Explorer and Quattro Forum"</STRONG>? Since it seems that people ARE buying them and they will probably catch on. I mean, these Explorer guys seem pretty friendly so far. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
Hope you had a Merry Christmas buddy. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="
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So it uses fancy words like Iron mask for the disc. setting, that ain't no big deal, it's the same function. The gain is to boost the target, do you want it faint, or loud? Deep & fast, self explanatory. There ya go! <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">
The learning curve on either the Explorer or the Quattro is getting to know the sounds and the way the targets react, not the few buttons you have to push. Heck, even Explorer presets will keep up with most out there.
Maybe it's not quite that way for those who start notching out targets but that's a whole other deal. I like those guys. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
">The learning curve on either the Explorer or the Quattro is getting to know the sounds and the way the targets react, not the few buttons you have to push. Heck, even Explorer presets will keep up with most out there.
Maybe it's not quite that way for those who start notching out targets but that's a whole other deal. I like those guys. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
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Oh, you don't have to tell me...I agree. I've used an Explorer and know what the settings are, though I haven't owned one. But I did own and hunt with a DFX and it has even more adjustable settings. I think the tones are the thing that scare a lot of people off. Like when my sister tried out my Sovereign at the beach...she was practically begging for her CZ back, with it's 4 simple tones.
Me, I like the variable tones of the Sovereign, Excal, and the Explorer/Quattro. There are a lot more settings that are adjustable on the Explorer than the Quattro though. And 54 adjustable settings and I believe 192 tones on the DFX. And for some folks who are "tweakers", they love all that. Me, when I had my DFX, I spent more time tweaking it than I did digging targets. I knew what I was doing...maybe too well. I was spending too much time playing and not enough time digging. That was a problem TOO MUCH freedom to choose and tweak. So I ultimately got a CZ-70 and a Sovereign Elite...two much easier machines to use and a lot less fiddling.
Now the Quattro is something in between. It definitely will have a niche among users who want hi-tech but don't want to tweak, program, save, shift, load, etc. Not that you HAVE to, but some people I doubt get much further than trying to figure out what they are seeing on the screen and getting lost in the menu one time before they get intimidated and decide they made a big mistake. Time will tell, but I think the Quattro will attract a lot of these folks. It's a very nice machine and fun to hunt with.
Me, I like the variable tones of the Sovereign, Excal, and the Explorer/Quattro. There are a lot more settings that are adjustable on the Explorer than the Quattro though. And 54 adjustable settings and I believe 192 tones on the DFX. And for some folks who are "tweakers", they love all that. Me, when I had my DFX, I spent more time tweaking it than I did digging targets. I knew what I was doing...maybe too well. I was spending too much time playing and not enough time digging. That was a problem TOO MUCH freedom to choose and tweak. So I ultimately got a CZ-70 and a Sovereign Elite...two much easier machines to use and a lot less fiddling.
Now the Quattro is something in between. It definitely will have a niche among users who want hi-tech but don't want to tweak, program, save, shift, load, etc. Not that you HAVE to, but some people I doubt get much further than trying to figure out what they are seeing on the screen and getting lost in the menu one time before they get intimidated and decide they made a big mistake. Time will tell, but I think the Quattro will attract a lot of these folks. It's a very nice machine and fun to hunt with.
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There are additional features that are in the programs that I found useful. Andy's Quattro book will explain some of these little know secrets. The book will be availible in the next week or so.
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I think I have changed the settings maybe once . I know you like conduct. I set mine on ferrous IM -16, set on deep with high sens., dig it if its not iron, sounds real complicated...relic hunters don't need the whistles and bells, nice to know they are there I guess. Also nice to pick through the trash if ya have to.
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I think most of the people who gave up the the explorer (besides for weight and balance issues) simply wouldn't/didn't take the time to get used to the tones. I does take time and there is a learning curve.
It's really not a programmable machine in the same sense that the DFX is. The only confusing part is the learn edit features. I'm sure the Minelab engineers (not to mention the sales staff) were creaming their shorts when they came up with those features, judging by the time the manual spends explaining them, but they have proven to be pretty close to worthless for most hunting situations.
What I believe is that those who did not take the time to tune their brains to the machine probably thought the reason they weren't finding coins is because they had some setting wrong, and called it "too complicated" and quit.
In actuality the only control that is really important is the On/Off button, and maybe knowing where to run the sensitivity. You can pretty much forget the rest if you are willing to spend the time to learn what the tones are telling you.
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It's really not a programmable machine in the same sense that the DFX is. The only confusing part is the learn edit features. I'm sure the Minelab engineers (not to mention the sales staff) were creaming their shorts when they came up with those features, judging by the time the manual spends explaining them, but they have proven to be pretty close to worthless for most hunting situations.
What I believe is that those who did not take the time to tune their brains to the machine probably thought the reason they weren't finding coins is because they had some setting wrong, and called it "too complicated" and quit.
In actuality the only control that is really important is the On/Off button, and maybe knowing where to run the sensitivity. You can pretty much forget the rest if you are willing to spend the time to learn what the tones are telling you.
Chris
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Cool, I'm going to be looking forward to that. Thanks, Joe.