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question about the outlaw

pax said:
what are the negative aspects of the outlaw if any

Nobody gives them away for free...no matter how good looking you are.
 
By design, the Outlaw is not a simple turn on a go detector. It's not complicated but will require a bit of use to become familiar with and master all its functions. But, once you do, you will find it to be an outstanding detector.
 
pax said:
ya thanx alot for the help

I do what I can.

I got a Vaq so I can tell you about that, would love to have an Outlaw, though.
Evidently that thing can disc out a dime and still get quarters.
To me that is jaw dropping.

Except for slightly less depth than the Vaq, still plenty deep enough, though, I can see no downsides with the Outlaw.
 
thank you guys for the help ,I was having a hard time choosing between the vaq and outlaw.the new features sound great ,a little less depth is no biggy.
 
Pax it is hard for me to say because i have not owned a Vaquero. for me minor things i dont like , like the blasting sound when you turn it on . and when hunting in the brush its very easy to bump the knobs and loos your settings, but I guess it would be the same with the other tesoro machines. you need to understand the Retune and how to set it up , really I am not to bathered with it , I like having two all metal modes. but you have to learn the No motion , before using it because its like a bucking bronco , that you have to break in , somtimes it wants to throw you . so you got to learn the reighns I like alot of the tesoro machines. if thear was somthing i really did not like about the outlaw I would have sold it I am glad to have it it has alot of sway in what it can do . I think more so than the vaquero,
 
Hi Pax,

I cant speak to the Vaq, and Im a rookie at MDing in general, but here is what I see as potential negatives with the Outlaw so far-

-poorly written instruction manual. I think at one point in there, it referred to the Tejon. So I think someone did a bad cut and paste job from other manuals instead of taking the time to wirte a well conceived set of instructions for this specific detector. For instance, the Retune feature is not well described. The interaction (or lack thereof) between threshold/all-metal/Disc/retune is not covered but there have certainly been questions about them.

-The depth it gets in real-world situations (not air test, not freshly burried coins in a garden) is easliy 8 inches on quarter-sized objects. I havent found any coins more than about 6 inches, but bottle caps, nails, and pull tabs have routinely rung out at 8-9 inches with the 8 inch donut coil. Much much deeper (16 inches +) on big iron. I dont know if thats a negative or not--just depends on how deep you want to go.

-It is a pleasant sounding machine once in opertation mode, but the battery check at power-up sucks.

-Ive had stability problems at weird times, but I dont know enough about detectors to say whether or not ANY detector would have issues under the same situations. It could also be user-error...

-The Retune button has a steep (for me) learning curve, but a few gentlemen on this forum have helped with this and I think once mastered, it can be a great asset for those hunting with All-metal mode.

I dont know if those are universal "negatives"for the Outlaw or just what Ive struggled with because of my lack of experience. I hope it helps though.
 
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