Hello to all, Newbe here. I have been coin shooting in the local parks and doing ok. Not getting rich, but no problem finding coins. I would like to start getting into the gold and silver rings tho. My question is, when i get a signal that is a coin, i use a probe to locate the coin and then decide how to extract it. Works good. But if its a ring, I'm not sure i would be able to find it with a probe. I'm THing in the grass and I know I could cut the sod, but would prefer not to. Especially since I'm wanting to start digging all targets over 35. I'm in the southwest and the grass is tough to come by around here. It doesn't grow real well. If the ring was on edge, it might probe ok, but if its flat, I'm not sure I have much of a choice other than cut a plug. Am I on the right track here? Any suggestions? Thanks for a great Forum. Lots of knowledge here, and I hope to learn lots more. Larry