Hi all findsmall friends. I have a question. Sometimes hunting ill get a good signal. A strong repeatable 60-80's signal that in any direction sounds good. Ill pinpoint it and dig. After the plug is out no matter how many times I scan the hole or the plug itself I get no more signal. Ill try my garrett pinpointer in and out of the hole than scan with the deus again and nothing. This has happened a few times and I call it ghost signals. Any suggestions. Also I am a veteran hunter for many of years.
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question on ghost signals
- Thread starter hunter081
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Hi,
most of the time, the target falls straightly deep down your own hole, sometimes the target is stuck on your shovel/digging tool and sometimes when you're digging as a crazy mole, your target is ejected far from your hole.... and sometimes your MD is bipping but the signal was a false positive and that could be your ghost signal. Check your GB, maybe it's too low and you're accepting soil too much....
See ya
most of the time, the target falls straightly deep down your own hole, sometimes the target is stuck on your shovel/digging tool and sometimes when you're digging as a crazy mole, your target is ejected far from your hole.... and sometimes your MD is bipping but the signal was a false positive and that could be your ghost signal. Check your GB, maybe it's too low and you're accepting soil too much....
See ya
Thank you tree but as I mentioned im a veteran detectorist. With my mxt-pro for years I never experienced this and with the at-pro no issues either. I have used the etrac and ctx3030. With the ctx I had this a few times but not as much as I have with the xp. My only thinking is maybe the GB is a issue with this machine. I run tracking and leave it alone 
But thank you for your reply. Also when I dig I don't fling to much dirt and I always scan the area when a ghost signal appears. I haven't recovered the item yet when running into this situation
But thank you for your reply. Also when I dig I don't fling to much dirt and I always scan the area when a ghost signal appears. I haven't recovered the item yet when running into this situation
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
Tbe other day got a good hit dug it couldn't find it pin pointer won't hit it...Found out is was so tiny that I was lucky to have found it
hunter081 said:Thank you tree but as I mentioned im a veteran detectorist. With my mxt-pro for years I never experienced this and with the at-pro no issues either. I have used the etrac and ctx3030. With the ctx I had this a few times but not as much as I have with the xp. My only thinking is maybe the GB is a issue with this machine. I run tracking and leave it alone
But thank you for your reply. Also when I dig I don't fling to much dirt and I always scan the area when a ghost signal appears. I haven't recovered the item yet when running into this situation
There's your problem if you haven't set a ground notch. GB/tracking/expert/set your ground notch
One of 4 things is happening. You are not finding your find in the plug, or you aren't digging deep enough, or find is in the side of hole, or is real small. I'd put my money on you're not digging deep enough. Lots of times I have noticed i.e. old wheats at around 8 inches, take 3 or 4 inches of dirt off the top and resweep and notta. Keep digging and walla the coin is there. It's just not a deus thing either, my CTX does the same at times. Something else I've noticed is the looser the soil the more it seems to happen for me. I haven't found the deus to lie. If it gives consistent tone somethings under the coil-either ferrous or nonferrous.
Thanks again everyone for the replies. Next time ill dig deeper and see if that fixes it. Sometimes after I cant find it when I put the dirt and plug back together I don't get a reading again. When in first place it sounds great. Its confusing but maybe I need to try also the notch trick. I was told that tracking set auto was the best for Deus. Im not familiar with anything past that.
Tracking is fine, but in some areas ground notch is needed (seemingly with a GB range of around 80-90). I had the same thing happen to me.
An alternative possibility is sometimes when you disturb the soil the Deus will disc out iron that sounded off with a good TID. Vertical nails are especially prone to this phenomenon.
You could check in all metal to verify the target is still there, or run iron volume on.
An alternative possibility is sometimes when you disturb the soil the Deus will disc out iron that sounded off with a good TID. Vertical nails are especially prone to this phenomenon.
You could check in all metal to verify the target is still there, or run iron volume on.
caroly, If you have an issue with tracking, you will experience false targets, erratic behavior, and serious falsing if you hit anything with the coil like corn stubble.
The false targets turned out to be actual targets that ID'd as high conductor but could be anywhere from iron to low conductor targets. Sometimes they would disappear on me as soon as I dug a plug.
Also you can shake the coil in the air and it will false. Setting a ground notch will virtually stop all those problems in tracking mode (if that's what is causing your problem).
If you set ground notch to its widest setting and saw no improvements, I would say it's something else or you have a bad coil. If you believe it to be a bad coil, make a video and send it to detector electronics.
Show them your settings including that you have ground notch established. Give them every piece of information you have so they can evaluate the problem before you waste shipping costs to send it in.
They sent one of my videos to XP prime in France when I had a problem new to the Deus. It turned out to be a defective coil. The video gave them the ability to diagnose the problem.
Good luck
The false targets turned out to be actual targets that ID'd as high conductor but could be anywhere from iron to low conductor targets. Sometimes they would disappear on me as soon as I dug a plug.
Also you can shake the coil in the air and it will false. Setting a ground notch will virtually stop all those problems in tracking mode (if that's what is causing your problem).
If you set ground notch to its widest setting and saw no improvements, I would say it's something else or you have a bad coil. If you believe it to be a bad coil, make a video and send it to detector electronics.
Show them your settings including that you have ground notch established. Give them every piece of information you have so they can evaluate the problem before you waste shipping costs to send it in.
They sent one of my videos to XP prime in France when I had a problem new to the Deus. It turned out to be a defective coil. The video gave them the ability to diagnose the problem.
Good luck
beepsilver
Member
I also had to have a 9in coil replaced a couple of months ago--not falsing though, more like constant EMI on steroids (all freqs)...much better now.
Hi ism.....a video will be my next move. My last time out the ground was rolled flat...excellent conditions.
I have tried nearly every setting there is with the Deus., when I shake the coil it does not sound off but I just can not go forward at times because it falses and I have to go back to recheck and there is no repeat signal. I know other detectors false at times but not to the stage where you can not make progress over the ground. My next adjustment is to the tones, I will set it up to only dig off low tones and see if the falsing still comes in high tone.(thats my tip of the day). If it works I will post it on here.
Dont get me wrong my Deus is still getting good targets and small targets too, last time out I got 3 Roman hob nails at about 5 inches.,
a small stud 10 mm. in diameter , same depth. But, I would have a lot more finds if it did not false.
Cheers.
I have tried nearly every setting there is with the Deus., when I shake the coil it does not sound off but I just can not go forward at times because it falses and I have to go back to recheck and there is no repeat signal. I know other detectors false at times but not to the stage where you can not make progress over the ground. My next adjustment is to the tones, I will set it up to only dig off low tones and see if the falsing still comes in high tone.(thats my tip of the day). If it works I will post it on here.
Dont get me wrong my Deus is still getting good targets and small targets too, last time out I got 3 Roman hob nails at about 5 inches.,
a small stud 10 mm. in diameter , same depth. But, I would have a lot more finds if it did not false.
Cheers.