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Return trip to the half dollar coin spill site - 1916 Standing Liberty???

Jaichim24

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So I managed to make it until Thursday (2 days after my first visit) before I decided I had to play hooky from work and head back to the coin spill site. My previous post (you can review it here) contained a 3 walking liberty half dollar coin spill! That combined with the Barber dime and IH penny I found had me dreaming and thinking of it non-stop.

So, after dropping my son off at pre-school, I got back to the property at 9:30 in the morning. I put on my 6X8 SEF coin and headed directly to the spot where I had found the walker halves. I was able to get better separation with the smaller coin, and soon about 1 foot away from my original hole I got a nice signal. This time I dug a huge plug and starting pin-pointing. To my surprise and utter amazement out popped 2 silver quarters, 1 Standing and 1 Washington. The standing was in pretty nice shape too!! So I spent another 20 minutes in the same 6X6 foot area making sure I did not leave anything else behind.

Next stop was the front yard which had given up a barber dime and IH penny last time out. I kept on my 6X8 and hit the 6 or so feet next to the foundation. Tons of iron. Sorry to report I didn't find anything significant. Some flashing and other debris.

A little discourage I headed back to my car and put on my 12X15 SEF and headed back to the front yard and started gridding the area 6 feet away from the house and beyond. 3 hours later I had earned my two wheat pennies!! uggghh, if I hadn't found those 2 silver quarters at the start of the hunt I may have taken off else where on my day off. I also pulled out both parts of an old spoon and an old 1918 dog tax license. Anyone know what the marks mean on the spoon?

So, I headed off to the back yard where there used to be a carriage house and a lumber mill. The carriage house had burned down and I kept on finding huge chunks of melted aluminum, and other large iron objects. Yeesh!! This place was testing me!

I kept my 12X15 on and decided to hit this embankment where I had found the American boy scout button and a few other cool relics. I learned after a visit by the property owner that this hill that leveled off was directly in line to where the front door used to be. (I also learned that they excavated an 8 foot swath of this embankment to move the driveway farther from the house, bummer for metal detecting finds) I soon learned that I had found where the residents went in their leisure time. On top of the cool religious pendant, the boy scout pin, a 1950 dog tax license (my 3rd from here) and a very detailed flower and leaf pin I managed to pull two more silvers!!!

The first had my heart jumping since I couldn't make out any details. I could have sworn I saw the cap on a capped bust showing through the dirt left on it. I stopped and headed over to a table to pour water over it. I soon learned I had another Standing Liberty quarter in my hands. I didn't know it at the time but when I got home and looked it up in my price guide that it has to be either a 1916 or 1917. (the 1916 in G-4 condition valued at $3500) Unfortunately the date is obliterated, and I cannot make out a D or S mint mark to verify that it is a 1917. Sooooo I'm here wondering if there is some other way to tell if it may be a 1916. I'm going to post a bunch of pics. Someone please tell me there is something else other than the date and the mint marks that may differentiate a 1916 from a 1917. Anyway, it's a nice find either way!!!

Lastly the merc I found must have been in the carriage house that burned down because it is absolute fried. Nothing on the obverse tells me it was a merc, in fact it has a hole burned through it. Luckily the reverse had enough detail left to determine is was a merc. Still pretty cool even in that shape.

Soo 3 more silver quarters and a silver dime, along with some cool relics. This place has treated me well. Thanks for looking. (more pics in the second post)
 
i think the 1917 and later slq had 3 stars on the back ether under or over the eagle. even if it is 1916 it may be a type two that had the exposed breast of liberty covered. i dont think it has enough detail left to tell which of the 2 it was.
 
ok iv really looked at it and would have to say its 1916 but cant say what type it is. i dont see any stars on the back. someone that has there red book of coins handy correct me if im wrong.
 
It could be a 1917 Type 1. The '17 type 1 has no stars on the obverse. Same as a '16 SLQ.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 
Congrats on your second hunt!! You did very well again!!

Check out this site for more information on your SLQ. You may be able to tell if you SLQ is a '16 or '17 type 1 if it is not worn in some key areas. Good luck!!

http://www.slqcoins.us/educational.html

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 
Dan, awesome link, thank you very much. Unfortunately based on the double spike in her hair, and the strong clarity of the shield rivets, I'm going to have to call this a 1917. At least I know now. If it had been a 1916 I think I would have had to sell it and split it with the land owner.
 
I used to collect SLQ's a few years back. They're way too expensive for me now. The design of the 1916 and the 1917 type 1 are identical. It is possible that the reverse die used to strike the 1917 could have some very minor differences from the 1916 reverse die. Dies are used to strike a certain number of coins and are then taken from the coining press to be polished and are then reused. It is possible that the reverse die could be unique to the 1916 and that a new die was used at the beginning of 1917 type 1 production.
Even tho the reverse of the 1916 and the 1917 type 1 are identical in design, it is possible that a new die was placed into the press at the start of 1917. All dies even tho they have the same design, do have some tell-tell minor imperfections.
There is a dealer who advertises in Coin World Magazine who specializes in SLQ's. He goes by the name " J the Beard ". He's written a book or two on SLQ
's. :clsoedeyes:
Nice find! I'll take a SLQ any time Over a Barber! :crazy:
 
:huh: Hmmmmmmm! I just read the link above and I have been "educated'. That was a very good link.
There has to be at least one 1916 still in the ground somewhere. I hope.
Hmmmmmmmmm! Where is that dateless type 1 I found?:unsure:
 
That was an excellent site. Congrats on all the quarters from this second hunt. SLQ have been few and far between for me. Always nice to have them turn up, especially in pairs. thanks for the post.
 
yeah, this site has treated me very well, though I was there from 9:30AM to 5:30PM that day. The site made me earn my finds!!!
 
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