safari question

[lafatlife]

why is it that pennies ring up high sometimes? I pulled a penny the other day that I would have sworn it was a dime because it registered at 37. I was pulling pull tabs that were in the 32 range. This is what frustrates me about the safari.

Any advice?

 

[montanagold]

I noticed that the 70's pennies where ringing in the 37 range and I had a 1904 Indian that was ringing low in the 32 range. pull tabs can be anywhere as with any detector different varieties ring different. I like to only dig the old stuff but even a penny is one more than I had before.

 

[edjcox]

Copper vs Zinc

Short term burial versus long

 

[ronaldj2]

Same number on pennies for me pre 1981, but older ones ring up in the low 30's. I have even scrimmed out every number except 38 just to look for someones missing jewelry in my yard, and guess what ? I found a penny from 1979, go figure. The machine is great but it does have a probability factor as most machines do. Ron safari

 

[lafatlife]

Copper vs Zinc

Short term burial versus long

no, not true. The penny I mentioned ringing at 37 was a zinc. I understand the coppers ringing high like a dime, but not a zinc.

It seems that pennies, dimes and quarters sound the same.

Don't get me wrong, I dig the pennies as they all add up, but if you are supposed to listen first and then look second, the sounds just don't seem to differentiate that well. I see a 37 and think dime or copper penny only dig about 3 inches and pull a 2001 penny.

 

[ronaldj2]

I never really paid too much attention, only that one time. I will try the zinc penny at 3 inches a 2001, you have now sparked my curiousity. Did you recheck the hole to make sure nothing else was in there ? I'm not implying that you don't know what you're doing. I have caught myself almost putting the plug back before rechecking the hole. Or even putting the plug back only to pull it back out to find another coin. Thanks for bringing up the subject, its definately a good thing to know.

 

[lafatlife]

I always double check the holes. On occasion I have found a "two-fer" or "three-fer" clad of course. On my other machines the older copper pennies ring high like dimes do and I know that is the conductivity of them. The zincs, especially the corroded ones sound very different.

All the pennies I found the other day, 7 in total, rang and sounded high and they were all memorial pennies. I didn't check the dates on all of them but I know the last one I dug was 2001.

Granted I am learning this machine but it makes it tough to distinguish things by the sound and before you ask, my hearing is very good.

 

[ronaldj2]

How did you know that I was going to ask about your hearing? What ? I really wasn't, I can tell by the way you described the pitches that your hearing is very good. Mine on the other hand isn't as good as it used to be, too many years on construction sites. How long have you had your safari ? I got mine in Feb. of this year. What state are you in ?

 

[diggetdawg]

hello all, I don't own a safari but my understanding is that its a slightly faster quattro. I also have been through the damned penny syndrome lol. just when I thought it was copper vs. zinc that was the difference, I was proved wrong. I have pennies hit 38 once in a while. the only thing now that seems to make cents is when in parks the wetter the soil the higher the ID # seems to be.(& thats not 100% of the time) now i just get frustrated & just as fast I get over it. detectors no matter the cost or the brand are still far from the perfect machine we all wish we had. I keep trying to remember that i'ts a hobby to relax & have fun, sometimes trying to disect these damned machines takes the fun out of it. it's great to know your machine, but know that they are far from perfect. good luck to u all

 

[lafatlife]

How did you know that I was going to ask about your hearing? What ? I really wasn't, I can tell by the way you described the pitches that your hearing is very good. Mine on the other hand isn't as good as it used to be, too many years on construction sites. How long have you had your safari ? I got mine in Feb. of this year. What state are you in ?

Hi Ron, I got my safari a few weeks ago. It is a really deep machine but I just don't like the tones. There doesn't seem to be enough of a difference.

I have an xterra 70 that has more distinct tones and I could tell the difference between a zinc and a copper penny and a dime.

I am in CT.

 

[comcat]

hiya guys,does anyone know if the explorer se is the same re tones and id?? rgds comcat,,,ps,,i have a g t and the tones are not exactly separable i.e. 17 freq,and 17 tones,,should have had 4 tones,,but the good or bad thing is you cant see the tones just hear them and maybe thats good enough???

 

[psyvad]

I owned an E-Trac that I used for about 6 hours, but then decided that I wanted a detector that made it easy to adjust discrimination and save and recall settings, so I trade it for a Safari. The E-Trac (and I'm guess SE), has a wider range of numbers than the Safari. With the E-Trac there was no problem with pennies and quarters coming in at the same target ID. From the target ID you could tell dimes from quarters and zincs. It would be great if the next version of the Safari had the wider range of target IDs like the E-Trac and back lighting.

 

[edjcox]

For what it is worth here's a chart..



SAFARI METER


Meter Reading______ Target____________ID Symbol Displayed

13/15____________NICKLE___________RING & PULL TAB

14/26____________PULL TAB_________RING & PULL TAB

16________________ GOLD RING_______RING & PULLTAB

33________________SILVER RING_______COINS

33/34______________PENNY___________COINS

34________________SILVER RING____COINS &SCREWCAP

36/39____________SILVER RING____COINS &SCREWCAP

35_______________HALF PENNY____COINS &SCREWCAP

37_______________DIME___________COINS & SCREWCAP

37_______________WHEAT PENNY__COINS &SCREWCAP

37_______________ SILVER DOLLAR_COINS &SCREWCAP

38________________ QUARTER__________COINS

 

[lafatlife]

Thanks edjcox. I have several different charts and for the most part things fall into those areas but on occasion that rogue penny rings up as a 37 or 38.

I am currently reading the book by Andy Sabisch "Mastering the Quatro" and that has offered some hints as well. I think I am going to try to hunt with Ferrous tones as they seem to have more tones available.

We shall see. Going to the beach this Sunday to see if I can find anything.

 

[The Fog]

Just to add in another odd # as far as pennies go, I had an 1876 Indian Head ring in at 23 last week.

 

[lafatlife]

23? That is odd. Perhaps the ground mineralization mess it up or the patina on it.

 

[The Fog]

Correction... it was my 1864 that rang in at 23, not the 1876. 1864 is bronze.



http://www.silvertowne.com/coinListing.asp?Category=Indian+Head+Penny+Variety+3+-+Bronze+(1864-1909)+&id=626

 

[lafatlife]

well that will do it.

 

[Onus]

I hunt with ferrous tones too. I can differentiate better for some reason.One reason I suppose is that a penny might sound high like a dime or quarter but read lower on the numerical chart.when set in ferrous mode. Anyone havng penny problems might check this out and see if it helps. Onus

 

[thunderstorm]

hi..not been on in a while.
I like to use coin mode mostly.The sites I detect on are greatly historic.I find 39 40 is a guaranteed silver coin.Until I discovered that it is well worthwhile digging below range of 34. 34 to 37 is a decent coin.33 is usualy a musket ball.However 11 gave me a silver hammered half groat. 22 a roman finger ring complete with diamond, bronze age socketed chisel. 32 vespasian roman coin....the safari is a fantastic detector imo.
My advice ...and im no expert....is dig as many signals as you can.You may be surprised to find coins you thought were not in range.