I have been using the Sharpshooter on the 8500 for the last four hunts and I believe this coil is the perfect coil for the 8500. I have hunted right up to several chain link fences and have found loads of coins. Today, I found three wheat pennies at depths up to 7 inches. In my test garden, this coil hits every coin as good as the NEL Hunter coil. The audio is extremely sharp and quick. I have not used the pinpoint at all. I just criss cross the signal and dig at the center of the "X". Most of the time the areas I detect are so trashy that the pinpoint button is useless. One coin had a tab, piece of wire and a wheat. It was very scratchy but was getting a somewhat repeatable high tone. I am going to leave this coil on the 8500 full time.