Here's my rule of thumb for deep detecting: The higher the sensitivity on the Ace, the slower the sweep speed-and vice versa. This gives the Ace time so it won't overreact so much at higher sensitivities to small and "iffy" trash items. With practice, you can run it up to near max at certain sweep speeds. Be prepared to dig deeper than it can pinpoint-check those repeatable signals that don't pinpoint. I can't imagine how deep it would go with the 12" coil-but it's awesome sometimes with the standard coil. Thanks for the post on the comparison of the CZ and the Ace w/12" coil- that's VERY interesting. By learning your Ace, you can improvise and approach depths close to the higher-priced machines.
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Uncle Willy
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Yeah I've written a few articles on hunting those not so obvious spots where untouched coins are lurking.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
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AS I always say, if you ain't learned the machine you have you ain't going to do any better with another - and perhaps even worse. There are no magic detectors. One has to be smarter than the detector or you have lost the battle before it even begins.
Bill
Bill
Thanks for all the good advice so far. I knew I could count on you guys to steer me in the right direction. I guess I should contain my excitement and learn to "become one" with my Ace 250 for awhile. I have done some research on the local area and hopefully I'll soon get to go hit those "less detected" spots. It's getting pretty cold here in PA. and I have a reputation for not being a cold weather person. I must like this hobby because I've been out twice on 35 degree mornings because it was the only time I had available.
Thanks for the advice on the coils too. I'll keep posting my finds as the pile grows. I'll proudly post the first "old coin" I find once I dig it up
Thanks again guys.
Thanks for the advice on the coils too. I'll keep posting my finds as the pile grows. I'll proudly post the first "old coin" I find once I dig it up
Thanks again guys.
John 'n' W.Va
Active member
If you have the money to throw around, you can aways keep upgrading to find that perfect detector. Just buy the top detector and learn it well. You may not like the top detector, but you have the money to waste. They are usually harder to use. Sort of like learning to ride a horse. Go ahead and jump on a thoroughbred. See what happens. The horse is able to preform well in the right hands. Are you able to handle the horse and get the most out of it?
Learn the Ace well and at the same time teach yourself about metal detecting. If you make a mistake, you don't lose as much. Play and have a good time with it. It can handle it. LEARN. The Ace is a great detector because it was built well and has a lot of the features of the mid price detectors. You may change your mind on your likes and dislikes. You will also learn more about other detectors, the good bad and ugly. After a while you will have a better idea on what kind of detector that will serve you well for your type of hunting and personality. It is not as much detector as it is, the person using the detector. A skilled man with any detector will find good things.
You want to find old coins? Is this old enough?
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Here is one older: 1735-1795.
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The key to finding old coins is be where there are old coins. I wish I lived in a better area for hunting old coins. Most of the older coins I find are Wheat's. This is part of the wheat's I have found this year. The good ones are in coin holders. These are the left overs.
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I am having a slow year. Lots of things happening in my life now. I have found only 6 of these this year, but I have found many coins from the 1800's.
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I have found many silvers, but they are in holders. This is one I found.
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Everything shown has been found with the Ace mostly with the small coil. I have also found 18k gold rings, chains, tokens and cw minnies.
Learn the Ace well and at the same time teach yourself about metal detecting. If you make a mistake, you don't lose as much. Play and have a good time with it. It can handle it. LEARN. The Ace is a great detector because it was built well and has a lot of the features of the mid price detectors. You may change your mind on your likes and dislikes. You will also learn more about other detectors, the good bad and ugly. After a while you will have a better idea on what kind of detector that will serve you well for your type of hunting and personality. It is not as much detector as it is, the person using the detector. A skilled man with any detector will find good things.
You want to find old coins? Is this old enough?
[attachment 111750 1-27-07-a002.jpg]
Here is one older: 1735-1795.
[attachment 111751 1735-1795sqcoin.jpg]
The key to finding old coins is be where there are old coins. I wish I lived in a better area for hunting old coins. Most of the older coins I find are Wheat's. This is part of the wheat's I have found this year. The good ones are in coin holders. These are the left overs.
[attachment 111744 8-17-08lotsofwheat.jpg]
I am having a slow year. Lots of things happening in my life now. I have found only 6 of these this year, but I have found many coins from the 1800's.
[attachment 111745 6-14-081896IH.jpg]
I have found many silvers, but they are in holders. This is one I found.
[attachment 111749 Image13.jpg]
Everything shown has been found with the Ace mostly with the small coil. I have also found 18k gold rings, chains, tokens and cw minnies.
Thanks, John. Your pictures of your finds are a inspiration that my Ace WILL find what I'm looking for. Santa is going to bring me a small coil to help me out and I'm going to start moving off the beaten path and looking in some of those places I think those older coins have been hiding. Hopefully by this spring I'll be posting some of my prize finds.
I totally agree about maximizing the ace 250. Of course, I've yakked about it before,
but it really does make a difference if you are really trying to go deep.
I've proven it to myself over and over.
From a $$$ standpoint, I think he's better off getting the two extra coils for the 250,
and then really learning to tweak them for max performance.
As an example, lets say moving up from a ace 250 to a 1350.. What more depth
would that give you in sheer performance using the stock coil?
I'm actually not sure, being I don't own a 1350, but lets say you get 2-3 more
inches with it wide open. It may or may not do that, I dunno. I'd let someone who
owns both answer that. So what does a 1350 cost these days? $550-$600 seems
to be about the norm..
On the other hand, you can add the 9x12 coil to the 250 and get the same 2-3 inches
more depth. For a lot less $$$$..
But for one serious about the ace 250, I really recommend getting both the 9x12
and the 4.5 inch sniper. The big coil gives you your extra depth when you need it,
and the sniper makes weeding through trash areas a lot more pleasant.
The ace 250 is capable of going pretty deep if you push it to the limit.
Not everyone really likes running it that way, as it does give you more chatter,
but it will let you reach down that extra bit to sniff out coins that it will completely
miss if the sensitivity is set mid range.
After you do it a while, you learn to tell what is chatter and what are good
repeatable signals.
Also, W.VA John has a good point. Not all places have old coins to find.
Some people lived in places and hardly ever lost coins back then.
I bet the families with lots of kids running around show the most coins..
If you had a house where two older retired people lived, they probably hardly lost
anything.
Anyway, my vote is keep the ace, get the two extra coils and just keep learning
the machine. Would be a lot cheaper, and I don't think the stock 1350 would
give you much if any more depth than just adding the 9x12 coil to the 250.
Course, you can argue that the 1350 with large coils might do even better,
and indeed it might, but then you are looking at $600+- plus the price of the
large coil.. You are getting into the $700-$800 range pretty quick.
About double what a decked out 250 will run.
I think you get more inches for the buck with the 250 and big coil.
Just no sizing, imaging, and I don't really care about that too much. I tend
to dig about everything I come across anyway..
My usual $2.91 worth of course..
but it really does make a difference if you are really trying to go deep.
I've proven it to myself over and over.
From a $$$ standpoint, I think he's better off getting the two extra coils for the 250,
and then really learning to tweak them for max performance.
As an example, lets say moving up from a ace 250 to a 1350.. What more depth
would that give you in sheer performance using the stock coil?
I'm actually not sure, being I don't own a 1350, but lets say you get 2-3 more
inches with it wide open. It may or may not do that, I dunno. I'd let someone who
owns both answer that. So what does a 1350 cost these days? $550-$600 seems
to be about the norm..
On the other hand, you can add the 9x12 coil to the 250 and get the same 2-3 inches
more depth. For a lot less $$$$..
But for one serious about the ace 250, I really recommend getting both the 9x12
and the 4.5 inch sniper. The big coil gives you your extra depth when you need it,
and the sniper makes weeding through trash areas a lot more pleasant.
The ace 250 is capable of going pretty deep if you push it to the limit.
Not everyone really likes running it that way, as it does give you more chatter,
but it will let you reach down that extra bit to sniff out coins that it will completely
miss if the sensitivity is set mid range.
After you do it a while, you learn to tell what is chatter and what are good
repeatable signals.
Also, W.VA John has a good point. Not all places have old coins to find.
Some people lived in places and hardly ever lost coins back then.
I bet the families with lots of kids running around show the most coins..
If you had a house where two older retired people lived, they probably hardly lost
anything.
Anyway, my vote is keep the ace, get the two extra coils and just keep learning
the machine. Would be a lot cheaper, and I don't think the stock 1350 would
give you much if any more depth than just adding the 9x12 coil to the 250.
Course, you can argue that the 1350 with large coils might do even better,
and indeed it might, but then you are looking at $600+- plus the price of the
large coil.. You are getting into the $700-$800 range pretty quick.
About double what a decked out 250 will run.
I think you get more inches for the buck with the 250 and big coil.
Just no sizing, imaging, and I don't really care about that too much. I tend
to dig about everything I come across anyway..
My usual $2.91 worth of course..