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Some F19 information

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Mike Hillis

Well-known member
Like everyone has already surmised, it is a Goldbug Pro, with the proven GoldBug Pro performance and some enhancements that make it more versatile for the ardent historian or treasure hunter.

Disc Features are:

****Back light....the back light is RED.. It has 6 intensity levels, 0 being off, 1 to 5 affecting the brightness level.

****The FeTone Adjustable Iron Audio is the same volume feature that made its first debut with the EuroTek Pro. It is a volume control that allows control off all responses, or just the ferrous responses. 0 is off, 1-9 affects the audio of all targets. Settings above 9 affect only the iron audio, with 10 being off. Plus the volume control settings of 0 through 9 also affect the all metal mode's audio response.

***The V-break is independent of the Disc function. It can be adjusted anywhere between 0 and 80. High tone VCO response above the V-Break, Low tone response below the V-Break.

***The Disc function is like a normal disc function. Range is 0 to 80

***The Notch feature consists of two parts. The first part consists of an user adjustable Notch Window, with a size range of 0 to 20. The second part of the Notch feature allows you to move that notch window anywhere on the conductive scale. When the Notch Window is moved to a point above the Disc setting the Notch is Rejected. When the Notch window is moved to a point below the Disc setting, the notch is Accepted. The V-Break audio is active when the Notch Window is in a Notch Accept position.

The four Discrimination controls; Volume, V-Break, Notch, and Disc, can all be used independently of each other or each (or all) combined in whatever way you might wish. Makes for a very versatile unit when dealing with a site's condition.

The All Metal mode is unchanged, with the exception that the volume settings carry over into the All Metal side.

It is a very easy metal detector to like.

More to follow.

HH
Mike
 
The FeTone is activated with Volume settings of 10 to 20. A setting of 10 allows the user to turn off all audio responses for any signal that falls into the ferrous range. The ferrous range of the F19 is 1 through 39. So a Volume setting of 10 would cancel the audio of any signal that gave a TID number within that range.

Assuming all other settings were at the preset levels, you could set your Volume control to 10 and all responses below a TID of 40 would be silent, and all response above 39 would be a high tone VCO.

As you raise your volume settings above 10, you progressively increase the volume of any response below a TID of 40, so a setting of 11 would give a faint audio response, a setting of 12 would give a little louder response, and so on, up until you reach the max setting of 20.

((The Non-ferrous responses are maxed out at a setting of 9 and remain the same volume level at all settings above 9))

Adding V-Break..... If you adjust your V-Break setting down into the ferrous TID range, the audio response will reflect your V-Break setting but the Volume settings will still control the volume of the audio response.

Example...the V-Break setting is 24. That means that all settings below 24 will be a low tone, and all settings above 23 will be a high tone. If you have the FeTone Volume setting at 10, no responses in that range will be heard. If you have your FeTone volume setting at 11, all responses below 40 will be faint. So a TID of 14 would give a faint low tone and a TID response of 39 would give a faint hi tone. Any response above 39 would give the maximum volume response.

With those settings, the V-break would be your iron reject level, the FeTone setting would be your ferrous / non-ferrous range identifier.

HH
Mike
 
Wow, that's some great info Mike.---Thanks for posting it--sounds like the F-19 is going to be a wonderful little machine.------Now----the question-----WHEN are they going to be available??
 
I hope it saves your settings? It would be cool if you could save say 3 different settings to quickly chose from.
 
The Notch feature is extremely versatile.

The Notch Window is user defined. You can create a notch window of any size between 0 and 20 segments or TID numbers, and then move that notch window anywhere within the F19's conductive range.

So if you were jewelry hunting at the beach and wanted to remove any high conductor responses so you could just focus on the gold range conductors, you would create a notch window of 20 segments, and then move that notch window up the conductive range until you notched out all the high conductors 80 and above.

If you were a clad hunter and just wanted to cherry pick quarters and higher, you could raise your Disc to Max (a setting of 80), create a notch window of five segments, and then move the notch window up until you rejected the TID ranges of 80 to 85, allowing only quarters and higher to respond. If for some reason you just wanted to focus on dime signals, you could do the opposite and notch out everything above a dime.

If you were hunting a field and found yourself plagued by 22 shorts, you could create a notch reject window for just that one target.

If you were park hunting and were plagued by one type of pull tab, you could create a notch reject window for just that one pull tab.

On the other side of the coin, you can use your Disc setting to create Notch ACCEPT windows. For instance, if you were coin hunting in a park and only wanted to retrieve coins, you could create a 3 to 5 segment window centered on a nickel response and then raise your disc to max, thereby only allowing nickels and high coins to respond. (no stinking lincolns)

Or if you were looking for a lost ring or earring, you could create a notch accept window specific for that one item.

If you were ring hunting, you could create a 20 segment notch accept window centered on a nickel response. Then adjust the V-Break to high tone at nickel and higher and low tone for signals below the nickel TID number.

Just a lot of user defined versatility in this Notch feature.

HH
Mike
 
Yes, it saves your settings when you turn it off. And if you get all tied up in knots and can't unravel your audio, V-break, Disc and notch, it also has a Factory reset. :surrender:

HH
Mike
 
They packed a lot of great user features in there! All I have to do is figure them out..........Where's that reset button? :shrug::rofl:
 
The official release should be very soon or I wouldn't have been given the green light to post about it.

One of the things I disliked about the Goldbug Pro and the G2 (I have owned both) was that the disc was tied into the V-Break. Seperating the V-Break and Disc was enough to make a new model in my mind, but the addition of the FeTone, and the user defined Notch Width window makes it a more useful tool.

There is no performance differences between the green camo vs the pink camo.

But the red back light is cool :cool:

HH
Mike
 
Thank you, Mr. Hillis, for the information and all your efforts.
Most appreciated!
 
Hi Richard,

The F19 is professional level equipment. If I had to describe it in one word, I'd call it the "Historian" because I think it's feature set is designed for the professional historian. Yet it is simple enough that anyone can use it successfully.

Condensed:

You have control over the audio level (Volume control).
You have control over the ferrous audio (FeTone).
You have control over the tone break point (V-Break).
Two tone audio. High tone VCO and non-VCO low tone.
You have control over the discrimination set point (Disc).
You have control over the size of the notch window, where to place it, and if it will be notch accept or notch reject. (Notch Width, and Notch).
You have control over a backlight that won't blind you when you use it because its red.
Gain Settings affect the PinPoint mode.
On the fly signal strength read out in Disc mode.
Two digit target id number in Disc mode,
Visual representation on the conductive graph in Disc Mode.
Three segment battery graph that tests the battery under load.
Ground Grab and Manual Ground Balance
Three digit ground balance resolution.
Ability to offset ground balance settings for site conditions and desired targets.
Two digit ground phase trending display in All Metal mode.
7 segment FE304 graph in All Metal Mode.
Volume setting affects the All Metal mode.
Threshold with 40 points of resolution on either side of zero.
Visual representation on the conductive graph in all metal mode.
39 points of ferrous resolution in both All Metal and Disc modes.

Hopefully I didn't leave anything out, feature wise.

Performance wise....

The high end of the conductive range is far enough out that it takes alot to wrap to iron.
A soft ferrous/non-ferrous boundary,allowing a more natural draw down in conductivity of mixed ferrous/non-ferrous objects.
GoldBug/G2 processing speed and their 19kHz operating frequency. Sensitive enough to detect the salt in your hand in both all metal and Disc modes.
Good on high conductors (even better with a negative gb offset) great on medium and low conductors, Great on tiny low conductors.

HH
Mike
 
Any word on whether the emi issues of the past on some models are taken care of, and any depth increases?
 
Bugg,
The Goldbug/G2 platform is probably one of the most stable platforms in the Fisher line up when it comes to EMI.

Depth depends on site conditions and operator experience. The F19 will detect deeper than it can ID a target in both operating modes.

Since the Gain control operates all the operating modes ( Disc, All Metal, and Pinpoint) it is more of a dynamic control on the F19 than people may be used to. You may be in a place where the site conditions allow a very high Gain setting for searching, but may require a lower Gain setting for good pinpointing operation. Or you may be in a place where the site conditions don't allow a very high Gain setting for searching, but you might want to raise the Gain for extra pinpointing depth for tiny fringe responses. The reason the Gain is controlled by a dial is to give you instant access to that feature so you can rapidly adjust it as your site conditions and requirements change.

HH
Mike
 
I hope it has the same rock solid TID that the G2 had. If so it may be the ultimate park hunter too.
 
n/t
 
Glad to hear 1st Texas has a better handle on the F19 and EMI. The gold bug pro, in my experience is the best at EMI and in most cases I could run mine at gain 95, no problems. In fact I found one of the most expensive gold rings ever in an area where other machine were all but shut down.
 
Mike Hillis said:
Bugg,
The Goldbug/G2 platform is probably one of the most stable platforms in the Fisher line up when it comes to EMI.

Depth depends on site conditions and operator experience. The F19 will detect deeper than it can ID a target in both operating modes.

Since the Gain control operates all the operating modes ( Disc, All Metal, and Pinpoint) it is more of a dynamic control on the F19 than people may be used to. You may be in a place where the site conditions allow a very high Gain setting for searching, but may require a lower Gain setting for good pinpointing operation. Or you may be in a place where the site conditions don't allow a very high Gain setting for searching, but you might want to raise the Gain for extra pinpointing depth for tiny fringe responses. The reason the Gain is controlled by a dial is to give you instant access to that feature so you can rapidly adjust it as your site conditions and requirements change.

HH
Mike
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Mike I are you saying that the F19 is as stable EMI wise as the GBPro?
Thanks
FO
 
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