Sunray Invader CS-5 Search Coil question

[Sven]

Just wondering how the Sunray Invader CS-5 coil compares to the Fisher Coinstrike 6" donut .
Since I can't find the Fisher coil for my ID Edge, have spotted a Sunray.

 

[MarkCZ]

I would say at lest as GOOD, its possible to be a tad better, the down side if you like the small donut "O" in the center of the Fisher then Sunray doesn't have it, its a solid coil.
To use the Sunray CS-5 on the Edge you would also have to have the little adapter cable that it originally came with, or modify the wiring a little on the connector.

Mark

 

[Sven]

My only concern right now is that I read on some other detectors that have the S-5 coil, the detector now has problems locating coins on edge.
One of my favorite things about the Edge was it's ability to find Canadian coins on edge. And ID them at a specific low iron 2 number spread range that nothing else really ID'd in.

 

[MarkCZ]

My only concern right now is that I read on some other detectors that have the S-5 coil, the detector now has problems locating coins on edge.
One of my favorite things about the Edge was it's ability to find Canadian coins on edge. And ID them at a specific low iron 2 number spread range that nothing else really ID'd in.

I've not ever had a detector (or coil) that wouldn't hit on coins on their side, the common problem with coins edged is they double beep, leading you (me) to digging two holes, one on each side of the coin and leaving the coin right in the middle of the two holes. Now, I never hunted steel coins, so I'm out of the loop on the problems searching for them. I do remember the one thing I didn't like about the Edge was its very LOW growl in all metal mode, it was more of a hum than a target response tone, but I only used that when I pin-pointed.

Mark

 

[Sven]

It's been a number of years since my last Edge, so I don't recall the low growl.
Now I did just build a new set of headphones for my PI that work great on a VLF machine.
You adjust the volume to max where you like it with a coin directly below the coil. But, the lower
volume threshold has been boosted to about 50% than on a normal headset. Which seems to work
really well if hard of hearing. I have to run the volume at no more than 65% otherwise the people down the street will hear
your detector..LOL

The Canadian clad on edge give a single blip like they were lying flat. Only difference is they ID into the very low iron zone, lower than nails.
Most people up here set their disc up here to nails and miss all the on edge coins.
Will have to check out those double blips you mention, I suppose they are closer spaced than nails?

 

[MarkCZ]

It's been a number of years since my last Edge, so I don't recall the low growl.
Now I did just build a new set of headphones for my PI that work great on a VLF machine.
You adjust the volume to max where you like it with a coin directly below the coil. But, the lower
volume threshold has been boosted to about 50% than on a normal headset. Which seems to work
really well if hard of hearing. I have to run the volume at no more than 65% otherwise the people down the street will hear
your detector..LOL

The Canadian clad on edge give a single blip like they were lying flat. Only difference is they ID into the very low iron zone, lower than nails.
Most people up here set their disc up here to nails and miss all the on edge coins.
Will have to check out those double blips you mention, I suppose they are closer spaced than nails?

Here in the US when the coins are tilted enough to call being "Edged" the signal will bounce off from each side and cause a deflected signal well off center of the coin, so you get two separated targets responses with enough spread that the Edged coil will divide up into two separate targets when you pin-point. So you end up with two false holes and the real target being in the section of ground between the two holes.

Well what I'm calling the low growl is just the all metal tone the Edge gives off, the Edge doesn't much of a power plant in the area of volume to start with, so the lower volume and the very LOW all metal tone to me was more of a growl than the target response tone that I was more used to in my other detectors.

There were things I liked about the Edge like,
Its size,
Its simple display,
Weight,

But the size and weight made a problem for me and using the 10.5" coil, the coil so over power the construction of the detector that it just felt like is had a clubfoot, now it was okay with the 8" coil and really great feeling with the 6".

I got rid of it mainly because I could find a use for it while I would grab it over my Coinstrike.

Mark

 

[Sven]

Decided not to take the chance on the brand new Sunray and went with the C$ 6" coil, for about $30 less. Like new used one time.
Just have to clip the ground pin as Keith Southern suggested. I know the Fisher coil works coins on edge and flat.