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sweep speed

Nock

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How do you experienced explorer' s sweep your coil as far as speed goes?

Thanks for your input

Nock
 
This would be an impossible question to answer in print. Because things like "fast" or "slow" or "kinda fast", etc.... are all relative and nebulous. Ie.: they have to be seen, and can be described in printed text. Even something like XX number of seconds per sweep, still has to factor in the width of the swap, which is in itself dependant on the height and arm length of the person :) The best way, is to hook up with a proficient user, and trade off flagged signals. Watch how they sweep the target, etc.... Or watch such things on internet vid. clips.

Also, be aware, that "playing with swing speeds" is a way to discern targets, so a user would vary the swing speed, depending on what he is doing, and the type site he is hunting. So you might go one speed on the wide open beach, and another speed in an iron riddled ghost town. Coil sizes would also factor in to the speed of sweep a person chooses. And even within a single site, once you've gotten a target that you're criss-crossing to "size up", you will momentarily "wiggle" etc... to assess responses. Like, rusty bottle caps trying to fool you, react differently when speed is changed, for instance.
 
I hunt mainly parks...concession areas....school sites...etc...and am strictly a deep coin hunter.

I know nothing about relic hunting or jewelry hunting...I concentrate on only deep coins.

No matter where I'm at...how much trash is there...or how much iron is there...I hunt and swing at a slow crawl.

If there is a lot of trash or a lot of iron...I swing even slower...sometimes at a near standstill...just slowly scanning the ground.

This is just my personal preference and opinion.

To me...the slower the better...which alllows the processor more time to react...and also allows my ears to better interperate what the machine is telling me.
 
The explorers do an excellent job of going slow. They dont seem to need all that speed for filtering to work well. I think Bryce used the word scanning... good word. I kind of push mine alone very slow much like a scanner does when scanning a piece of paper. Slow enough so i can hear all the targets in the ground as the coil passes over them. Not much SPEED to my sweep. But like Tom said, you do that kind of sweep in target rich areas. When you are in the open you might pick it up to cover more ground. Beach hunting you can swing much faster, because there isnt much in the soil in dray sand to affect depth and you are digging everything. So covering a lot fast is important. Much like just clad hunting. Relic hunting is like beach hunting and park hunting. Thats when threshold comes into play. If im not hearing much to include iron i move a little more quickly until i find an active spot... then dig it all.

Dew
 
Sweep slow is the name of the game with an Explorer and thats why I excel with an Explorer or CZ for deepies as by nature move slow so a perfect fit for me. On the other hand my old hunting buddy was a natural fast swinger and excelled with an XLT..I do have to say hunted with one of our youger fellows(explorer) in his thirties and he swung rather fast and excelled but feel he had excellent hearing and rechecked those quick peeps. Have no idea what his settings were but he went deep and held his own with hunting buddies..
Try to think of painting the ground slowly with a large paint brush ought to give you an idea and if you know of or have an old planted coin garden you can practice swings which give the best depth.
 
Thank you all for giving me some of your ways of searching i have been using the xterra 70 for a year and now have the explorer se pro, When i hunted with the x70 i defintely swept the coil faster.
It seems like the explorer takes a little more time to process the information than the x70 does. Would that be a correct statement?

Thanks for your replies, David

Greatest treasure man can find ( FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST)
 
here is the setting i am using on my explorer xs here in the UK if anyone is interested.
the machine setup this way ain't for the faint hearted but you will winkle out thoughs small finds, hammered coins etc. plus the recovery speed of the machine is better setup this way so you can sweep the coil a bit faster than normal as the processor has less to cope with. be prepared for a lot more noise this way but once you have trained your brain to recognize what noise's to dig and what to ignore it's like second nature and dosn't seam so noisey any more and all great detecting from their on.
like i said to the mate the other day when he said how the hell can you use your explorer setup like that. i said its a bit like listening to 3 different peoples conversations at once and deciding which conversation sounds the more interesting. i can hear the good stuff next to the rubbish not like when you use iron mask which like it says mask's the iron and often to much of the good stuff at the same time.

i started of using iron mask set at say -10 then went down to -12 then went down to -15 and after a few weeks as i got used to the machine set this way i went from using iron Mask on to using it off and using the nails reject pattern, which was quit noisy to use at first because of not using a great deal of discrimination but i persevered with this setting and done really well with it and my finds rate went up. now i am using the settings mentioned below and i am having some great success with.

ADVANCED MODE (bare minimum discrimination)

Display_smart
Sensitivity_22 or stable as possible
auto Sensitivity_off
Threshold_8
ion mask_off
Sounds_conduct
Response_audio 3
Recovery_deep
th tone_1
Variability_10
Limits_9
volume_max
volume_gain 9
noise_5


(STEP 1) set the above settings into the explorer then go back in to the menu and press the setting button. then select to save either in (user A or B) then OK. now press the detect button to go back to the main detect screen.

(STEP 2)
go in to the menu and then press the select button. now press the clear button and you will now notice that the small screen in the top left corner has completely cleared. now press the detect button 4 times or until you get back to the advanced edit screen. now push the top left shift button till the small black cursor shows. now move the cursor up to the top left corner of the screen. now press the left middle shift key till you see a cross appears. then press the detect button to come out of the edit screen and you should mow have a small square in the top left corner of your smart screen.

(STEP 3)
now this bit is important: if you don't do this part, when you switch the machine off then back on again the screen will go back to the pattern you were using previously: now go in to the menu and press the save button and save in one of the save slots. now press the detect button till you are back to the advanced smart screen.
i find this program hears the smaller good targets a bit closer to iron targets than the nails reject pattern does but the machine may be a little bit more noisier to search with and you will hear smaller bits of iron as well.
because you are searching using conduct sounds sometimes a iron signal can be mistaken for a silver/copper signal if say the smart screen wont settle in one spot because of say ground conditions etc. so a great way of testing to no wether a signal found is just iron or not, if your not that botherd about not being able to use the smart screen, is to detect on sounds alone and display the (audio / sounds) screen on the machine all the time and if you get one of those tones that your not sure about, quickly switch from conduct to ferrous sounds and if the tone changes from a high tone to a low growl tone its just iron. if it stays a high tone or mid tone dig it. you are still able to use the pinpoint this way as well.

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my new settings (bare minimum discrimination)
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old settings (nails reject pattern)
nailsreject.jpg


my latest find. a Middle Bronze Age Palstave Axe head
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTYCB4P6foA[/video]
 
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